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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 11, 2008 4:09:47 GMT
So I have been using a tired ass Playstation-1 as a dedicated CD player for a bit of time now and I have to say the sound is just fine but DAMN that bitch is fugly ! Top loading is a plus,top loading "toy" is not and worse,the IR receiver hanging off the front looks friggin' goofy.The only saving grace on the cosmetics front are the aluminum spikes and the maple platform resting on a teeny tiny kids bike tire inner tube though with the gray tones Walnut would look a damn sight better on balance as would a "touch of gold" as in brass cones instead of aluminum even though the "tone" will shift a bit (wood density change,brass vs. aluminum "ringing" and such) i did consider one of those plastic paints to change the overall color but having used them years ago for automotive use KNOW they start to look like total sh*t with use when the edges of high use areas start to go a bit south leaving a godawful mess that is a combination of the origianl and the new colors so nope.not happenin' at Rancho Ricardomonster Another option is to toally remove the top and mill one out of a solid block of wood but I realise that while it would look nice (probably  ) i will never actually get to it so again off the list. then by accident I come across this : www.consoleplus.co.uk/index.php?cName=playstation-psone-otherEnough color options to keep even the easily bored amused for weeks ! feeling wicked ? Basic Black baybee ! Kinda got that 60's feeling going ? Hell.only purple will do. Toys 'R Us Kid ? you like your gear looking like a toy store display ? The clear green or the clear blue seems to fit that bill and then some Computer Geek ? Basic white of course ! Me ? I wish there was a nice dark cobalt blue but can't have everything though upon reflection this one is damn close  www.interesting-devices.com/asp/product.asp?recorprod=1&product=192&cat=62&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=i also came across this "gizmo" which is pretty damn cool but the problem is i only see it available in the origianl PS-1 color so either it goes or the colors do.again,can't have everything even if we would like to www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/880/mia/d/playstation+1+lcd+screen/pid/4076107I like the idea of a small top loading CDP and the sound from the direct outputs (coupling caps and resistor shunt directly to the output) but there are some serious issues on the user freindly and cosmetics fronts and there was that heat issue until i got the damn power supply out of the box but i duuno,the frikkin' thing is just so damn CUTE I guess i will futz around with it until I either blow it up or get tired of it and move on though presently it does play some pretty good jams while i work on bettering the external DAC for the PS-2 I am in the process of modding.At least that bitch is attractive in its native state  |
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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 11, 2008 23:17:07 GMT
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Post by dc on Mar 12, 2008 2:19:56 GMT
that is very cool! i don't remember there being an infra red remote for the PS1, must be added on by the moddder. |
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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 12, 2008 4:34:38 GMT
More than plenty of aftermarket IR controls available for the PSX.They plug into the control ports then you use the wireless controls for gaming (or in this case music selection).What most of the modders have done is take the ports out and build the IR controls right into the deck.You lose the use of the memory cards because it is no longer there but unless the PSX is used for both gsming and music no real loss
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Post by rossman on Mar 12, 2008 12:20:56 GMT
I have a couple of these, 1 in my headphone system and 1 in my main rig alongside a Meridian 206. Both PS1s have slightly noisy mechanisms.
The 206 is a bit warmer and fuller and is my prferred digital source in the main rig, although if the 206 died I wouldn't have any problem living with the PS1.
I notice that the replacement cases are stated to be unsuitable for the 1002 which is the 1st generation European version with the phono outs.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 12, 2008 12:45:08 GMT
IIRC the playstations were pretty well built, sprat to catch a mackerel type machines.... ie: the console very well made and sold as cheap as chips.... the "games" are where the real money was made May be worth picking one of these up on ebay for a listen, I must admit I never tried mine as a source when I had it..... spent all my time trying to kill monsters in resident evil |
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Post by scott on Mar 12, 2008 14:11:30 GMT
I got into the hype after reading the thread at diyaudio They recomended only the first model 1002 PS1 with the chinch on the back I got one for 10 Euros and was very happy with the sound...gave it to the guy at the local Hifi shop who specialises in big bucks DNM Amps and Creek Cambridge etc...he gave it a good listen over a couple of weeks and admitted that on some CDs it sounded better htan his opus 21 CD that cost 4.5K!!! on other cds some of the detail and impact was missing but he felt it always presented the music in an enjoyable non fatiguing manner.... myself i am no golden ears and mainly listen to vinyl but swithcing between the ps1 and the MZHS 66 is not a big deal for me and i know which one was cheaper... this guy here has come up with some more mods dogbreath.de/PS1/index.html |
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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 12, 2008 14:13:40 GMT
Mine was in a box in a closet so was an easy experiemnt.Also in the closet were a Sega,first generation Nintendo,a Sega Nomad,a "spare" PS-1 (have no idea what THAT is about....) and beleive it or not a freakin' ATARI with enough games for each to keep anyone in the house for months  I bypassed the entire output section going with a simple coupling cap/bias resistor on the output but I'm thinking like with other stripped down or Ultimate Mod designs the recommendation to "remove the muting transistors" is off base no matter WHAT the experts say.They are there for a reason and that reason is not getting pissed off when all manner of noises find their way to your loudspeakers or headphones so I will either use a relay or a pair of FETs to get back my "MUTE" function. Just like with the "lost controls" like a simple damn balance control and a mono switch to be able to use it the experts tell us we don't need this purist audio crap is more step back than it is forward when taking out the much needed muting ruins the listening experience and yes,i have fallen for the same sh*t as most others The difference is I have no problem with being called "uncool" (state of being anyway folks and i have it nailed down and then some  ) for going against the norms or I wouldn't have not only tone controls but a loudness contour control as well in my system (plus a Paul W. Klipsch type 3-CH stereo matrix and a David Hafler Dynaquad rear channel matrix AND a passive headphone surround matrix of my own design AND a low cut filter @15hz that is always in the"on" position AND a variable hi-cut filter for some of my beyond hope recordings or the "shellacs" AND a"Panorama" control just because AND.......lava lamps.No system is complete without lava lamps or my soon to be completed color organ ) |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 12, 2008 14:24:00 GMT
Gee Whizz..... you can pick these up for pennies on ebay and most of them come with 25 games and lots of other goodies...... £15 Buy it now...... I just may well "buy it now" at that price  Cheers Ricksterooniraptosaurus |
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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 12, 2008 14:55:12 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 12, 2008 15:16:29 GMT
Pack a lunch for this one,damn marathon that is still ongoing And a flask of tea maybe? |
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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 12, 2008 15:20:45 GMT
Another point. The original playstation had a problem with overheating and I can remember my kids cussing up a storm (thought I wasn't listening but I don't miss sh*t ) when the platform would just stop working and would have to cool off before it was again usable.This is likely due to the tightly packed case having a pretty good amount of current running in the power supply and no breathing room,a situation that is none too good in a system that is 99% plastic,something that once it is "deformed" will never be the same again and maybe why there were so many laser problems reported (alignment going wonky when the mounting surface warped). The fix in the PS-2 was to add a fan,a NOISY fan (*have an "OFF" switch on mine but thinking of going to a temp sensing variable speed type ),and as usual overthinking and overengineering the simple "fix" which is no more than taking the power supply out of the box ! A simple matter of extening the present wiring harness to a "new" rear panel multi-pin connector (where the AC mains cord connector resides in the stock unit) which is attached by an umbilical to the "new" power supply box. The upside is you get the internal heat down and you get any stray RFI (switcher ) or any line induced hum away from the analog stage.The downside is you reduce the overall mass of the player making it it even more sensitive than before to what surface it is one or what isolation methods you use so a mixed bag. You COULD add mass back to the now empty area to transport left (also a nice "kludge" are for a new analog stage ;D ) or even by adding some brass top weights to the left and right rear of the housing plus bolting on a thick aluminum plate to the bottom of the player or you could just whip out a simple tuning/isolation platform. Tuning part : Footers used on the deck plus whatever "woody" surface you use under it Isolation part : very minimally inflated small bicycle tube,iso-nodes,pucks,squishy balls,etc At some point i may get around to doing the linear psu but beware there is a startup sequencing chip in the stock psu that if missing may mean your player won't start up so go slow here Bottom line-bypass the analog section,couple to your present system through a good coupling cap with a proper bias resistor to ground and get the power supply out of the box and for the price of admission you'll have a CD player that is at least as good as many so called "audiophile" or aftermarket mod job el cheapo DVD player (been there and done that  ) and wil be surprisingly better than many. Plays music and that is the bottom line.........................even if it is an ugly so and so |
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Post by insomniac on Mar 13, 2008 1:01:56 GMT
IIRC the playstations were pretty well built, sprat to catch a mackerel type machines.... ie: the console very well made and sold as cheap as chips.... the "games" are where the real money was made May be worth picking one of these up on ebay for a listen, I must admit I never tried mine as a source when I had it..... spent all my time trying to kill monsters in resident evil If you want a good up to date games machine check out the Xbox 360......loads of great games and a rock solid online system. Microsoft have just cut the price in europe by about £50 and the older games can be had from around a tenner. |
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Post by rickcr42 on Mar 13, 2008 13:46:30 GMT
Already "In Da House" Only gaming platforms I can't locate in one room or another are the Coleco,the original "Pong" (had it once ) and the PS3 which so far none of my family thinks is worth the asking price of. as a music transport all can be capable performers if the optical D-Out is replaced with a proper pulse-transformer isolated BNC jack going to a TRUE 75 ohm cable which is in turn terminated with a 75 ohm pulse transformer in an external DAC but the beauty of the PS-1 is as a "one box" CD Player that as a side benefit can also play games so mine has one cable feed going to the AV switch then on to my video monitor and the (now) dedicated audio only outputs going to my system selector/controller. This enables me to SEE on the TV screen just what is going on though to be honest I don't think any of us humans really need a display to tell us we are listening to music or once we know a CD what cut is playing so while not essential we seem to like to look at something while we listen even if it is only an idiot light.Look around and you see a damn lot of blinky things hitting us from all sides that in reality do no more than distract the jittery (me) and sooth the masses (baaaaa baaaaa baahaaaa) who need their fix of reality TV every damn night or they go smack someone just to have something to do Back on topic ;D Quick and Dirty "get 'er done bucko" version requiring ZERO DIY unless you are the type who when you replace a light bulb stand on a chair,hold the bulb then have someone turn the chair to get it in the fixture Mid level "better than more than you think" Interconnects for the AV out :  choose your poison www.monstercable.com/monstergame/ps2_cables.aspAbove average Line cord replacement :  can't beat it with a stick (or probably even build the equal of) for $13 retail plus the color of this and the above are just what the PSX needs to liven up the drab gray www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=1514Unless you go fooling around with the power supply re-pack there really is ZERO need for a three prong (hot/nuetral/ground) AC Mains cord and even if you do re-pack it as an external device as long as there are no exposed metal surfaces |
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Post by charleyphogg on Mar 14, 2008 1:37:15 GMT
I've been curious by this for some time and have never figured out where to ask....
Judging by the first pic, of the 3 in 1 connector, 2 being rca and 1 being 3.5mm....
The male part is same dia., and 3.5mm butts up angaisnt where as the rac slips over, but it will only go into female same distance.
Is there any harm in putting rca connectors into a 3.5 mm jack?
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Post by insomniac on Mar 19, 2008 21:37:27 GMT
I've been curious by this for some time and have never figured out where to ask.... Judging by the first pic, of the 3 in 1 connector, 2 being rca and 1 being 3.5mm.... The male part is same dia., and 3.5mm butts up angaisnt where as the rac slips over, but it will only go into female same distance. Is there any harm in putting rca connectors into a 3.5 mm jack? The 3 in 1 connector does not have a 3.5mm jack - just RCA. RCA Red = Analog audio Right RCA White = Analog audio Left RCA Yellow = Composite analog video |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 21, 2008 0:19:58 GMT
I've just bought one of these contraptions off e-bay (SCPH-1002) and realise it's just the console I'll be getting.... no leads or controllers so have ordered a PS2 remote control which will hopefully work. Thing is, if someone's messed about with the sound settings using the controller I won't know? Last thing I want to do is start buying control units, memory cards, games blah blah.... just want to use this as a dedicated CD transport once it's been modded. I'm sorry but I don't know a lot about these games consoles, I assume I won't need a memory card to listen to a CD? At the moment, and if it sounds good, it's pretty much a bargain basement purchase and I'd like to keep it like that Oh shit! I appear to be bidding on another one that has a new laser assembly fitted..... hell I forgot about that one  Rick, you've got a lot to answer for |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 21, 2008 0:34:19 GMT
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Post by leo on Mar 21, 2008 1:37:10 GMT
I thought I was mad ;D
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 21, 2008 1:55:54 GMT
I know what the hell next? Modding a binatone ghetto blaster maybe?  |
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Post by charleyphogg on Mar 21, 2008 4:37:33 GMT
Last thing I want to do is start buying control units, memory cards, games blah blah.... just want to use this as a dedicated CD transport once it's been modded. Memort cards are only for saving your game too. In the few times I;ve played on, I can't answer your controller questions, |
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Post by charleyphogg on Mar 21, 2008 4:42:32 GMT
I've been curious by this for some time and have never figured out where to ask.... Judging by the first pic, of the 3 in 1 connector, 2 being rca and 1 being 3.5mm.... The male part is same dia., and 3.5mm butts up angaisnt where as the rac slips over, but it will only go into female same distance. Is there any harm in putting rca connectors into a 3.5 mm jack? The 3 in 1 connector does not have a 3.5mm jack - just RCA. RCA Red = Analog audio Right RCA White = Analog audio Left RCA Yellow = Composite analog video OK, my bad, somehow I could make out the splayed prong on the 2 males, and thought the trhird one was solid and missed the colred markers But my origianal question still stands. Is there any problem using rca male jacks, in 3.5 mm females? I.E. wondering if the prong would go in far enough to be be prone to RFI or whatever. Also 3.5 mm butts up against, and rca slips over. |
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Post by insomniac on Mar 21, 2008 6:28:50 GMT
RCA and 3.5mm jack are not compatible as the jack makes it's connections along the prong whereas the RCA connects at prong and outer which slips over. These can be used in this case: Phono Socket to 3.5mm Mono Adapter  or for stereo: Two Phono Socket to 3.5mm Stereo Adapter  |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 21, 2008 19:30:13 GMT
INCREDIBLE! I won the first SCPH-1002 which comes with "nothing" for £20 plus £9 postage so £29. I didn't particularly need to win the other one and thought I'd be outbid but, nope........ won it for £4.21 with £6.00 postage on top. This guy comes with 2 x PS1/PS2 Official Dual Shock Joypads, 2 x 1MB Memory Cards (1 x Official and 1 x Blaze, All Necessary Leads & Cabling including a PAL-NTSC Converter..... Just shows you! so that's averaged out at £20 per machine..... fi they prove to have good SQ then maybe quite the bargain |
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Post by leo on Mar 21, 2008 21:13:20 GMT
Look forward to your listening impression Mike ;D
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) i will never actually get to it so again off the list.
) for going against the norms or I wouldn't have not only tone controls but a loudness contour control as well in my system (plus a Paul W. Klipsch type 3-CH stereo matrix and a David Hafler Dynaquad rear channel matrix AND a passive headphone surround matrix of my own design AND a low cut filter @15hz that is always in the"on" position AND a variable hi-cut filter for some of my beyond hope recordings or the "shellacs" AND a"Panorama" control just because AND.......lava lamps.No system is complete without lava lamps or my soon to be completed color organ 
) and wil be surprisingly better than many.
Rick, you've got a lot to answer for 
