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Post by jc on Feb 27, 2015 23:12:37 GMT
Apologies in advance, i couldn't resist the obvious... Tin pest identified!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 3, 2015 21:14:14 GMT
This latest batch is absolutely incredible! Not one valve below par and an incredible 43 closely matched pairs out of the batch...... I've been a good two days going through the batch in fine detail and what has amazed me is the consistent "side" accuracy with regard to the gain AND the gain itself. The spec sheet is quite wide ranging with regard to the gain quoting 25 to 40 and the vast majority of this batch have been clocking in at around 36. The best part of it is when I flick the switch and the gain is almost identical on both sides of the valve, this is superb for amps like the V2 / V3 / V8 as close gain on both sides keeps the distortion figures way down. Here is an example of 10 of the valves I tested: Side one Side two G 36.80 G 37.00 G 37.10 G 37.00 G 38.20 G 38.00 G 37.00 G 37.00 G 36.80 G 36.70 G 35.90 G 36.00 G 37.30 G 37.50 G 39.00 G 38.90 G 37.30 G 37.50 G 37.10 G 37.30 That is almost perfection!! The mA/V reading of ALL of the batch was also the highest I have come across so I'm quite chuffed with this particular batch, I'm going to crack the other 7 boxes open (same vintage /same date codes) over the coming months and will sort them all into precision matched pairs. This is my best batch "ever" and I'm smiling like a Cheshire cat with each valve (tube) I test.... these are the dogs bollocks par excellence! CJ....... do you still have your X-CAN V2? If so, I'd like to send you over a pair...... the "measurements", in this case, really DO equate to better sound quality and it would be greedy of me not to share the "proof of the pudding" listening test with you. You think the V2 sounds OK? You may think otherwise when you've heard it with a pair of these puppies on board. Alex, Seems that tin pest got into everything back in the day and good to know that you were ahead of the game back then as you still are today...... maybe share your "in the field" remedy with Mark Hennessey? I'm sure he would be over the moon to discuss tin pest / whiskers with you..... the vintage radio community are doing their best to keep vintage radios "going" and all aspects of technical advice / tips are most appreciated. www.vintage-radio.net/forum/index.phpMike.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 22:20:13 GMT
Hi Mike Feel free to pass on the info about tin whiskers between relay springs and their mounting screws. Previously, we had to remove heavy Relay Sets from situ to the work benches, unsolder the faulty spring set and solder in a replacement spring set. Then we had to adjust the contact clearances and spring tensions before reinstalling the relay base. Many of the faulty spring sets had exotic contact materials, and often cost about $100 for a replacement. Add to that several hours of labour , and possible checking of the Technician's work by supervisory staff. Mistakes and short circuits were not unknown when soldering in the replacement spring set either. Quite often they needed to be specially ordered in from the NSW Parts Distribution centre too.
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Post by jc on Mar 4, 2015 16:08:29 GMT
Mike,
How do they compare to the smaller valves (sorry can't remember the model) that we put on base adaptors? I really prefer those to the EBs in the v2.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 4, 2015 19:55:06 GMT
Mike, How do they compare to the smaller valves (sorry can't remember the model) that we put on base adaptors? I really prefer those to the EBs in the v2. Hi Chris, They are a lot nicer sounding than the EB's to my ears but I haven't yet compared them to the frankenstein valves Mike.
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Post by audioholiced on Mar 7, 2015 1:16:17 GMT
New to this sight. How would I go about getting some of these valves?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 1:29:51 GMT
New to this sight. How would I go about getting some of these valves? Click on "Pink Floyd" from a post of his, then click on "Send Message."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 1:29:55 GMT
New to this sight. How would I go about getting some of these valves? Click on "Pink Floyd" from a post of his, then click on "Send Message."
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Post by thairon on Jun 8, 2015 4:28:54 GMT
A tin of baked beans (before the advent of the "sell by" date) used to be thought of as "good for hundreds of years" until Scott of the Antarctic died and they discovered tin pest instead en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_pest Well that made me take the trouble to look, ooh cor blimy mate, you learn sumfin new evryday dunya. (I mean it, not sarcy) Maybe it's the glue used to hold the glass to the bass, adhesive pest? Over the years maybe the vacuum gets marginally compromised? How do I get your pricing and contact information?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 5:04:36 GMT
Simply click on "Pink Floyd" in his Avatar and send him a P.M.
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Post by firsttake on Nov 17, 2015 20:54:59 GMT
After purchasing some of the Voskhod 6h23n tubes from Mike and having let them settle in to my preamp I wanted to say how wonderful they are sounding in my system and how great dealing with Mike has been. The tubes have proven to be everything he has stated about them here and quite distinctive in their sound. Right out of the box they tested extremely well on a TV-7D/U tester and their sound is clean and exciting - forceful and very dynamic along with being very quiet. They arrived very well packaged which was a good thing as between the Royal Post and United States Post Offices the box had been obviously manhandled in less than kind ways. Just the same, the interior bubble wrap had prevented any sort of damage to the tube boxes or the tubes, thankfully. Mike knows what he is doing and selling great tubes!! Steve
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 21:13:54 GMT
After purchasing some of the Voskhod 6h23n tubes from Mike and having let them settle in to my preamp I wanted to say how wonderful they are sounding in my system and how great dealing with Mike has been. The tubes have proven to be everything he has stated about them here and quite distinctive in their sound. Right out of the box they tested extremely well on a TV-7D/U tester and their sound is clean and exciting - forceful and very dynamic along with being very quiet. They arrived very well packaged which was a good thing as between the Royal Post and United States Post Offices the box had been obviously manhandled in less than kind ways. Just the same, the interior bubble wrap had prevented any sort of damage to the tube boxes or the tubes, thankfully. Mike knows what he is doing and selling great tubes!! Steve You will also find that Mike matches his pairs to extremely close tolerances, well in excess of most other suppliers.
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Post by dozer on Mar 13, 2016 2:48:03 GMT
I know this is an old tread, but I'm looking for some new tubes for my linestage. Does anyone know if Mike still have some in stock? I tried to PM Mike a while back, but I haven't heard back from him yet.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 31, 2016 19:49:08 GMT
I know this is an old tread, but I'm looking for some new tubes for my linestage. Does anyone know if Mike still have some in stock? I tried to PM Mike a while back, but I haven't heard back from him yet. Hi Dozer, I can't believe I didn't see this thread and have just come across your PM..... apologies for not getting back to you sooner than this! I have plenty of 6H23N all from the same military batch (100 in each carton) and they are the best I have ever heard, I can supply precision matched pairs, no problems at all. I will send you an e-mail regarding this. Best regards, Mike.
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Post by zonto on Apr 12, 2016 20:36:04 GMT
Hi Mike, new member here too. YGPM.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Apr 24, 2016 20:38:05 GMT
You will also find that Mike matches his pairs to extremely close tolerances, well in excess of most other suppliers. Hi Alex, I match both sides of each triode with particular respect to gain (Mu) as this is most important. A valve with gain of 30 on one side and gain of 34 on the other side would equate (roughly) to a 1dB imbalance..... it may not "sound" like a lot but it's an imbalance nonetheless. I have come across quite a few valves where the gain per side is "way" off the scale (with regard to balance) with, for example, one side measuring 27 and the other side 38.... I, quite literally, put these into a big cardboard box labelled "WAY OUT!"........ I wouldn't sell these to anybody even though any of the basic testers would class them as "excellent" with regard to emissions etc. Fortunately, maybe I have been lucky, most of the batches I have bought over the years have been damned tight (with regard to side to side tolerance accuracy) and very few have made it into the "WAY OUT!" box. This is why I like the Voskhod (Kaluga plant / rocket logo) valves so much..... they are, generally, as tight as a Nun's snatch and you don't end up throwing half of them in the bin. The worst ever mistake I made was buying a batch of JAN Philips 6922....... I took the plunge and went for 500 of them, all from the same batch / sealed carton / never seen the light of day etc. etc. They were absolute pigs! I think I got about 40 precision matched pairs out of the entire batch..... the rest of them were just so "out" per side you wouldn't believe it! If they are Philips military grade 6922 (JAN = Joint Army / Navy) then thank god the USA didn't go to war with Russia because, if they did, we would now all be speaking Russian. The other thing with the JAN Philips 6922....... microphonics city! Absolutely horrendous things and a total crapshoot. I must confess, I was so bloody angry after testing 500 of them that I demanded a refund and sent all 500 of them back (to a VERY reputable source)..... I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole after that experience. You are correct, I am extremely fastidious when it comes to valves and will not ship out a pair unless they are within +/- 1% of each other (per side / per pair). All vintage Voskhod valve pins will have built up a slight degree of surface oxidisation on them over the years..... before testing I go over each of the 9 pins with 1400 grade paper to remove the oxidisation..... I then test them and then go one further by giving each valve 1 minute in an open frame amp..... I have a listen to a reference track, pause the track and listen for any "rustling" from the valve and finally give the valve a "ping" test with the end of a pencil to ensure it is not microphonic. Only then (after passing these tests) am I happy to send them on to a fellow music lover. Mike.
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Post by Chris53 on Apr 29, 2016 9:55:18 GMT
You will also find that Mike matches his pairs to extremely close tolerances, well in excess of most other suppliers. Hi Alex, I match both sides of each triode with particular respect to gain (Mu) as this is most important. A valve with gain of 30 on one side and gain of 34 on the other side would equate (roughly) to a 1dB imbalance..... it may not "sound" like a lot but it's an imbalance nonetheless. I have come across quite a few valves where the gain per side is "way" off the scale (with regard to balance) with, for example, one side measuring 27 and the other side 38.... I, quite literally, put these into a big cardboard box labelled "WAY OUT!"........ I wouldn't sell these to anybody even though any of the basic testers would class them as "excellent" with regard to emissions etc. Fortunately, maybe I have been lucky, most of the batches I have bought over the years have been damned tight (with regard to side to side tolerance accuracy) and very few have made it into the "WAY OUT!" box. This is why I like the Voskhod (Kaluga plant / rocket logo) valves so much..... they are, generally, as tight as a Nun's snatch and you don't end up throwing half of them in the bin. The worst ever mistake I made was buying a batch of JAN Philips 6922....... I took the plunge and went for 500 of them, all from the same batch / sealed carton / never seen the light of day etc. etc. They were absolute pigs! I think I got about 40 precision matched pairs out of the entire batch..... the rest of them were just so "out" per side you wouldn't believe it! If they are Philips military grade 6922 (JAN = Joint Army / Navy) then thank god the USA didn't go to war with Russia because, if they did, we would now all be speaking Russian. The other thing with the JAN Philips 6922....... microphonics city! Absolutely horrendous things and a total crapshoot. I must confess, I was so bloody angry after testing 500 of them that I demanded a refund and sent all 500 of them back (to a VERY reputable source)..... I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole after that experience. You are correct, I am extremely fastidious when it comes to valves and will not ship out a pair unless they are within +/- 1% of each other (per side / per pair). All vintage Voskhod valve pins will have built up a slight degree of surface oxidisation on them over the years..... before testing I go over each of the 9 pins with 1400 grade paper to remove the oxidisation..... I then test them and then go one further by giving each valve 1 minute in an open frame amp..... I have a listen to a reference track, pause the track and listen for any "rustling" from the valve and finally give the valve a "ping" test with the end of a pencil to ensure it is not microphonic. Only then (after passing these tests) am I happy to send them on to a fellow music lover. Mike. Aren't the JAN Philips 6922 the standard crappy valves already fitted to the Xcans when you buy it? Everything Mike has ever sent me sounds light years better than the original valves. The latest valves received a couple of weeks ago are the best yet. I wrote briefly to Mike about them: 'I think these latest valves are pretty special. I have never heard a valve be so good at vocals. It easily seperates individual voices and many instruments too. The midrange overall is especially fine. If I had to criticise at all I'd say that they aren't especially "airey" at the top end and can mask some of the subtle things at the treble end of the mix. However, as someone who is driven mad by an "edge" to vocals that is nothing like a real voice, these valves are a real winner. I realise they may well improve further over the coming weeks and I look forward to that.' Has anyone else tried these. I'd be interested to hear what you think of them.... and if you are thinking of getting some and you still have the original valves in use, prepare to be astonished at what a decent set of valves can do to the sound. Chris
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Post by PinkFloyd on Apr 29, 2016 19:49:16 GMT
Hi Alex, I match both sides of each triode with particular respect to gain (Mu) as this is most important. A valve with gain of 30 on one side and gain of 34 on the other side would equate (roughly) to a 1dB imbalance..... it may not "sound" like a lot but it's an imbalance nonetheless. I have come across quite a few valves where the gain per side is "way" off the scale (with regard to balance) with, for example, one side measuring 27 and the other side 38.... I, quite literally, put these into a big cardboard box labelled "WAY OUT!"........ I wouldn't sell these to anybody even though any of the basic testers would class them as "excellent" with regard to emissions etc. Fortunately, maybe I have been lucky, most of the batches I have bought over the years have been damned tight (with regard to side to side tolerance accuracy) and very few have made it into the "WAY OUT!" box. This is why I like the Voskhod (Kaluga plant / rocket logo) valves so much..... they are, generally, as tight as a Nun's snatch and you don't end up throwing half of them in the bin. The worst ever mistake I made was buying a batch of JAN Philips 6922....... I took the plunge and went for 500 of them, all from the same batch / sealed carton / never seen the light of day etc. etc. They were absolute pigs! I think I got about 40 precision matched pairs out of the entire batch..... the rest of them were just so "out" per side you wouldn't believe it! If they are Philips military grade 6922 (JAN = Joint Army / Navy) then thank god the USA didn't go to war with Russia because, if they did, we would now all be speaking Russian. The other thing with the JAN Philips 6922....... microphonics city! Absolutely horrendous things and a total crapshoot. I must confess, I was so bloody angry after testing 500 of them that I demanded a refund and sent all 500 of them back (to a VERY reputable source)..... I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole after that experience. You are correct, I am extremely fastidious when it comes to valves and will not ship out a pair unless they are within +/- 1% of each other (per side / per pair). All vintage Voskhod valve pins will have built up a slight degree of surface oxidisation on them over the years..... before testing I go over each of the 9 pins with 1400 grade paper to remove the oxidisation..... I then test them and then go one further by giving each valve 1 minute in an open frame amp..... I have a listen to a reference track, pause the track and listen for any "rustling" from the valve and finally give the valve a "ping" test with the end of a pencil to ensure it is not microphonic. Only then (after passing these tests) am I happy to send them on to a fellow music lover. Mike. Aren't the JAN Philips 6922 the standard crappy valves already fitted to the Xcans when you buy it? Everything Mike has ever sent me sounds light years better than the original valves. The latest valves received a couple of weeks ago are the best yet. I wrote briefly to Mike about them: 'I think these latest valves are pretty special. I have never heard a valve be so good at vocals. It easily seperates individual voices and many instruments too. The midrange overall is especially fine. If I had to criticise at all I'd say that they aren't especially "airey" at the top end and can mask some of the subtle things at the treble end of the mix. However, as someone who is driven mad by an "edge" to vocals that is nothing like a real voice, these valves are a real winner. I realise they may well improve further over the coming weeks and I look forward to that.' Has anyone else tried these. I'd be interested to hear what you think of them.... and if you are thinking of getting some and you still have the original valves in use, prepare to be astonished at what a decent set of valves can do to the sound. Chris Hi Chris, Yes, the stock X-CAN V2 originally came with JAN Philips 6922 valves installed.... they're not bad if you get a decent pair but the batch I had were all over the shop with regard to matched triodes so I don't bother with them these days. The valves I sent you have never seen the light of day since they were manufactured Chris so give them a bit of time to cook..... you'll probably find that they will blossom after about 20 hours or so. I totally agree with you regarding the mids and, especially the vocals..... again, these will improve further after a bit of cooking. I don't know if you have played any tracks with low bass notes in them yet but, boy, the 6H23N dig deep in that department...... If you like Floyd, try listening to the first part of Echoes where the bass kicks in.... whoah, does that go low! My reference CD, at the moment, is "Touch Yello" by Yello..... every valve I have will get 30 seconds of track one going through them before going to their new home..... it's amazing how I can IMMEDIATELY pick up on differences in the sonic presentation when I try different valves (such as Mullard / Reflector / EH / JJ / Philips etc.) listening to that same track over and over and over again (for 30 seconds a time)...... it's quite sad (in a way) but it's the way I do things..... I really must move on to track 2 one of these days At the end of day, I can't live without proper bass reproduction and the 6H23N (to my ears) do bass extremely well. I love minutiae of detail and the 6H23N do it for me even though my ears are 55 years old now..... we are all supposed to hear "less" top end detail the older we get but I can still hear a penny dropping on the floor (from a great distance) and run over to pick it up My mate is 67, he looks 47 (seriously) and behaves like a teenager yet you could hear him in the next county when he talks...... I only twigged it a few weeks ago, I was wearing a watch that has one of these annoying hourly "peep peep" noises on them, we were in the car and it peeped..... I said something to the effect of "annoying bastard thing" and he said "what's annoying?"..... turns out he didn't hear it. A week later I was in his garden having a smoke and said "what a racket those birds are making" (birds were cheeping away in the trees) and he said "I can't hear them / it never bothers me"....... I kind of "subtly" (in my usual fashion) told him he was going effin' deaf and should get his hearing checked..... he replied with "pardon?" (in his usual quick witted response way) and we left it at that. The bloke doesn't listen to music, behaves like a teenager, dresses like a teenager, always has a smile on his face and managed to pull a 42 year old Moldovan woman on holiday so I won't spoil the party and insist that he goes for a hearing test Blimey, where did that come from? I do have a tendency to ramble a bit when the keyboard warms up......... anyhoo Chris, that "20 hours" that I mentioned, don't leave the amp perma switched on as it will shorten the "in spec" lifespan of the valves...... just listen then switch off........ leaving it on 24/7/365 (as MF recommend) is doing no component any favours whatsoever. Best regards, Mike.
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Post by Chris53 on Apr 30, 2016 16:19:28 GMT
Aren't the JAN Philips 6922 the standard crappy valves already fitted to the Xcans when you buy it? Everything Mike has ever sent me sounds light years better than the original valves. The latest valves received a couple of weeks ago are the best yet. I wrote briefly to Mike about them: 'I think these latest valves are pretty special. I have never heard a valve be so good at vocals. It easily seperates individual voices and many instruments too. The midrange overall is especially fine. If I had to criticise at all I'd say that they aren't especially "airey" at the top end and can mask some of the subtle things at the treble end of the mix. However, as someone who is driven mad by an "edge" to vocals that is nothing like a real voice, these valves are a real winner. I realise they may well improve further over the coming weeks and I look forward to that.' Has anyone else tried these. I'd be interested to hear what you think of them.... and if you are thinking of getting some and you still have the original valves in use, prepare to be astonished at what a decent set of valves can do to the sound. Chris Hi Chris, Yes, the stock X-CAN V2 originally came with JAN Philips 6922 valves installed.... they're not bad if you get a decent pair but the batch I had were all over the shop with regard to matched triodes so I don't bother with them these days. The valves I sent you have never seen the light of day since they were manufactured Chris so give them a bit of time to cook..... you'll probably find that they will blossom after about 20 hours or so. I totally agree with you regarding the mids and, especially the vocals..... again, these will improve further after a bit of cooking. I don't know if you have played any tracks with low bass notes in them yet but, boy, the 6H23N dig deep in that department...... If you like Floyd, try listening to the first part of Echoes where the bass kicks in.... whoah, does that go low! My reference CD, at the moment, is "Touch Yello" by Yello..... every valve I have will get 30 seconds of track one going through them before going to their new home..... it's amazing how I can IMMEDIATELY pick up on differences in the sonic presentation when I try different valves (such as Mullard / Reflector / EH / JJ / Philips etc.) listening to that same track over and over and over again (for 30 seconds a time)...... it's quite sad (in a way) but it's the way I do things..... I really must move on to track 2 one of these days At the end of day, I can't live without proper bass reproduction and the 6H23N (to my ears) do bass extremely well. I love minutiae of detail and the 6H23N do it for me even though my ears are 55 years old now..... we are all supposed to hear "less" top end detail the older we get but I can still hear a penny dropping on the floor (from a great distance) and run over to pick it up My mate is 67, he looks 47 (seriously) and behaves like a teenager yet you could hear him in the next county when he talks...... I only twigged it a few weeks ago, I was wearing a watch that has one of these annoying hourly "peep peep" noises on them, we were in the car and it peeped..... I said something to the effect of "annoying bastard thing" and he said "what's annoying?"..... turns out he didn't hear it. A week later I was in his garden having a smoke and said "what a racket those birds are making" (birds were cheeping away in the trees) and he said "I can't hear them / it never bothers me"....... I kind of "subtly" (in my usual fashion) told him he was going effin' deaf and should get his hearing checked..... he replied with "pardon?" (in his usual quick witted response way) and we left it at that. The bloke doesn't listen to music, behaves like a teenager, dresses like a teenager, always has a smile on his face and managed to pull a 42 year old Moldovan woman on holiday so I won't spoil the party and insist that he goes for a hearing test Blimey, where did that come from? I do have a tendency to ramble a bit when the keyboard warms up......... anyhoo Chris, that "20 hours" that I mentioned, don't leave the amp perma switched on as it will shorten the "in spec" lifespan of the valves...... just listen then switch off........ leaving it on 24/7/365 (as MF recommend) is doing no component any favours whatsoever. Best regards, Mike. Hi Mike I have a few albums I use when any change of equipment or any kind of tweaking occurs. Often though it's some not "top notch" stuff recording wise that I return to like The Beatles Rubber Soul, Revolver & Sgt Pepper. These new beauties do great things with those albums. The more naturally recorded tracks can sound poor vocally on a lot of equipment. These valves take away the electronic sheen and edge of vocals and separate when there is more than one voice so that each voice is easier to isolate and follow. The instruments separate very nicely too. Among too many versions of The Beethoven Symphonies, I have the David Zinman set with the Tonhalle Orchestra. These have a more realistic balance than quite a few sets and sit you a dozen rows or so back from the orchestra. I hadn't played them for a while despite them being pretty good versions because they sounded thin and uninvolving sound wise. The new valves give the orchestra a bloom and detail like never before and they are a joy to listen to again. I have been pleasantly surprised by the bass response too but I may not have played anything that really shows that off as well as the Floyd's Echoes. I will fish that out and have a listen. I'll check out King Crimson's "Larks Tongues in Aspic" and "Discipline" too as they will sound very impressive I'm sure. I've got more Zappa than is probably healthy too and a lot of his stuff is well recorded, so I am going to have a nice time running these in. I think I can still hear fairly well (coming up to 63 this coming week), I can certainly still hear detail and a reasonable amount of top end in recordings. Plenty of birds twitter around here and I can hear them very clearly. Even though I can hear detail very well in live and recorded music I do suffer from what gets called "cocktail party deafness", although I've never been to a cocktail party in my life. If there are a lot of people talking loudly in a room it can be difficult to follow a conversation happening near me. Very frustrating sometimes. Also, if there is a good amount of reverb in a place like a stair well and someone else is talking from another floor it can sometimes be difficult to be sure of what's being said. If two people are talking then forget it. I know about not leaving the X-Cans on 24/7. I did do that in the early says but definitely since having the X-Can's modded by you I have never done it. You probably warned me about that at the time, I can't remember. I noticed the difference between these new valves and the ones I had from you a year or so back immediately. Absolutely no contest between them. I look forward to getting the other side of the 20 hours use and seeing what I think then. Been to busy trying to organise a house move that started in November to give them the time I'd like. All down to a shite solicitor. I feel more like 73 after what has been happening. If it wasn't for music I would probably have shot someone by now. Regards Chris
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Post by PinkFloyd on Apr 30, 2016 20:37:16 GMT
63? I thought you were Chris 53? Jesus....... amazing how time flies
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Post by Chris53 on May 1, 2016 15:02:20 GMT
Ahh that was the year I was born. Mind you I agree about time flying by. The past 30 odd years seem to have flown by.
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Post by PinkFloyd on May 1, 2016 20:39:28 GMT
Ahh that was the year I was born. Mind you I agree about time flying by. The past 30 odd years seem to have flown by. The past week has gone by like a minute used to do....... I think the clocks have been speeded up
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 1, 2016 22:16:13 GMT
I'm about to crack open a December 1982 carton (100 valves)...... Voskhod / Kaluga plant...... will report back when the seal has been broken Mike.
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Post by Chris53 on Nov 4, 2016 18:46:28 GMT
I'm about to crack open a December 1982 carton (100 valves)...... Voskhod / Kaluga plant...... will report back when the seal has been broken Mike. I'll be all ears..and eyes
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 4, 2016 20:45:58 GMT
I'm about to crack open a December 1982 carton (100 valves)...... Voskhod / Kaluga plant...... will report back when the seal has been broken Mike. I'll be all ears..and eyes Hi Chris, Hope all is good with you mate. I'll upload some photos tomorrow, nice clean batch December 1982 "CCCP" markings and never seen the light of day. I love cracking these boxes open, it's always a good buzz, the smell of 1982 captured in a box I always like to find out what happened in the year the valves were made..... it kind of adds to the buzz: www.liketotally80s.com/2007/08/80s-capsules-1982/34 years old..... my my how time flies!! Mike.
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