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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 3, 2009 19:56:48 GMT
Coming shortly..... X-CAN v8 upgrade kit plus a blow by blow guide on installing the mods... watch this space
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Post by clausdk on Jun 3, 2009 20:20:25 GMT
exciting.
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Post by yamallan on Jun 5, 2009 0:43:42 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 7, 2009 21:45:19 GMT
Appearing soon
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 8, 2009 20:18:48 GMT
NOT appearing soon I never thought I'd say this but I recommend you DON'T attempt to modify the X-Can V8! Musical Fidelity, in their infinite wisdom, have chosen to employ a double sided PCB and some seriously "cement like" unleaded solder.... add in the fact they have "glued" the capacitors to the PCB and you are talking "no way are you going to get those bastards out of there easily" It's pretty easy removing components from a one sided board but removing unleaded soldered components from a double sided board can be a nightmare. God knows what type of unleaded solder MF are currently using but 530C would hardly touch it (believe me that is HOT).... even the old trick of flooding in some low melting point unleaded wouldn't shift it, horrible stuff! The bottom line, No way would I contemplate working on this amp and NO WAY would I recommend others to work on it unless they know some way I don't of getting that crap to melt AND suck it out of the double sided pads.... The glued capacitors aren't a problem but the double sided board and cement like unleaded solder are. I'm really disappointed, I was so looking forward to working on this amp. It probably "could" be done but I strongly recommend leaving well alone.
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Post by Will on Jun 8, 2009 20:24:46 GMT
Do you reckon they have done this on purpose, to stop modifications?
They do seem to actively take a dim view of mods to their equipment, more so than other companies. Apart from their own services, of course.
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Post by idc on Jun 8, 2009 21:11:10 GMT
Hi Mike. On reading this you can ignore the e-mail I sent to you today about modding the V8! I think that there is no doubt that this has been done to put a dent in the competition. You will have seen the Fine Tuning section of the MF site. Loads of mods available. I wonder how they get the parts apart? Or do they bother and have PCBs made in advance with the mods done, slip out the old, in with the new, bobs your uncle. I take it that the valves can still be changed?
Also, how do you find the V8s sensitivity to vibration? I have bought two Morrisons granite place mats (they come in packs of two for £6 and are just the right size), sat them one on top of the other and that has cured most of the problem. But if I tap the case with something small and light, like the plastic cover for the cable end, it still rings.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 8, 2009 21:15:52 GMT
Do you reckon they have done this on purpose, to stop modifications? Yes.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 8, 2009 21:18:47 GMT
Hi Mike. On reading this you can ignore the e-mail I sent to you today about modding the V8! I think that there is no doubt that this has been done to put a dent in the competition. You will have seen the Fine Tuning section of the MF site. Loads of mods available. I wonder how they get the parts apart? Or do they bother and have PCBs made in advance with the mods done, slip out the old, in with the new, bobs your uncle. I take it that the valves can still be changed? Also, how do you find the V8s sensitivity to vibration? I have bought two Morrisons granite place mats (they come in packs of two for £6 and are just the right size), sat them one on top of the other and that has cured most of the problem. But if I tap the case with something small and light, like the plastic cover for the cable end, it still rings. Ian..... the ringing equates to crap valves (microphonic) they are easy to replace, just pop the hood and roll a new pair in..... no need for granite mats.
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Post by yamallan on Jun 8, 2009 22:12:45 GMT
Oh, that's really disappointed. But Mike, you said you have done one before and that's a success, so what happened to my amp?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 9, 2009 9:24:51 GMT
Oh, that's really disappointed. But Mike, you said you have done one before and that's a success, so what happened to my amp? I will e-mail you Allan.... seems MF have changed the solder they use
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Post by ralphies on Sept 2, 2009 16:53:02 GMT
Hmmm... shame it isn't easy to modify, shold be nice to tweak it one day.
So modifying is made too hard like you said before?
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Post by panos on Feb 26, 2010 10:41:31 GMT
Hello guys. I did not have any problems in modifying mine. The most obvious difference was changing the tubes to 2 x E88CC VALVO gold pins. Thereafter the stock wire should go and all the PSU caps. I also did a better PSU that gave a great deal of value. Here are some old pictures, a lot happened since this time and the X-Can can really sing now www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72149&KW=x%2Dcan+panos
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Post by panos on Feb 26, 2010 10:42:26 GMT
If anybody is interessted, i can post some new photos...
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 26, 2010 11:54:37 GMT
Nice work Panos! I've modded a few since my original post and am quite embarrassed because it "wasn't" the solder that wouldn't melt it was the tip on my iron which was knackered I see you have used Panasonic caps, it will sound a lot better now Mike.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2010 13:21:09 GMT
Hi Panos
I'd like to see your newer photos as I have a V8 but have never opened it. I thought it had the components 'glued in'?
Syd
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Post by clausdk on Feb 26, 2010 23:04:04 GMT
Does this mean we do get a V8 upgrade kit and a blow by blow instruction ? ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2010 23:35:16 GMT
Does this mean we do get a V8 upgrade kit and a blow by blow instruction ? ? Claus Is that the one using that shitty solder that Mike found hard to remove ? Alex
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Post by clausdk on Feb 26, 2010 23:36:29 GMT
Does this mean we do get a V8 upgrade kit and a blow by blow instruction ? ? Claus Is that the one using that shitty solder that Mike found hard to remove ? Alex Yes but as I read it, it was not the solder that was bad, but the iron..
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 26, 2010 23:38:35 GMT
I've had enough guys I'm off to sleep until this winter is over..... too much pressure on my head Mike.
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Post by clausdk on Feb 26, 2010 23:41:30 GMT
Take a two months hibernation..
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Post by krisno on Apr 3, 2010 9:11:56 GMT
haha - my god. Is that really so, it is moddable? I had the V8 once. Maybe I get the V8P some day and do a full mod. Will there be a mod package for it Mike? But I think I rather wait until next release. The V8 seem kinda like a flop popular by MF standards.
Most other tube amps use P2P wiring instead of circuit boards. Is there any real audible difference doing it that way? Like the WOO amps etc?
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