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Post by Spirit on Apr 5, 2009 15:44:05 GMT
Which solidstate amp is the best one for HD600 then which is not too expensive. That jaycar thing, is it 2134 on the input and discrete output? At stock, 2134 yes. With the mods most of us here have done, a LM4562HA. I'm running my modded jaycar into HD600s and loving it
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Post by krisno on Apr 5, 2009 15:59:34 GMT
Does the Keces 171 look good? Maybe a bit expensive £350 + shipping..
That jaycar is probably not bad, simple... but the problem is the enclosure. Where the heck to get that, I don't run a damn factory here.
Btw, why don't just get the MF V-can, change the opamp to 2134 and resolder some of the caps? How would that be?
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Post by krisno on Apr 5, 2009 16:48:27 GMT
Mrarryo, I see many recommend the Heed.
But below the clothes the Heed is just such a disaster. I have never ever seen a simpler and more crappy design including that flimsy transformer, and for that you pay £340 ? it's insaine... thats what I payed for this state of the art Burson. It's just mad... Those eastern european bastards deserve the death sentence for creating and even selling such a product.
Btw, is it a warm amp?
I am thinking of selling the aKG ... getting rid of the headphones which has just ruined my life! But well, if setup correctly I believe the AKG to be the superior headphone. I remember trying HD -650 and AKG K 701, and the senn's made me almost sick. so bloated and bassy.. But of course, the other side of the coin is that the AKG's are fatiguing me.
Anyways... so here we are? AKG K 701 w Shanling discrete?
or just sell it all, commit suicide, but before that ... do a last try with Sennheiser HD600 + Yulong DAH1 MARK II ... The mark II is brand new, 2009 edition... hehe.
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Post by krisno on Apr 5, 2009 17:33:25 GMT
Continuing my monolog... the crap-can v2 is now sold, going out the door tomorrow. The V2 sounds more or less like the Burson. And that is a feat not easily matched for the price but with increased distortion. The V8 on the other hand sounds alot more like a tube amp, very sweet. The problem with the v8 is the lack of details. It's mega lush, but details is just not there. And even the v8 with aKG sounds a bit 'shrill' , even with built in USB DAC.
I will see how long I can keep this Burson, if I can get the Perreaux SXH-2 for half the price, this goes back to where it came from. Allready arranged it with the Burson guys. And then this stuff must come to a stop. It's madness....
Those wanting a 1 box solution(or 2box) for computer use, consider the Wadia dac with built in Raysameuls amp... then add a Offramp or pacecar jitter reduction device. You will have a system beating most of what's out there. Dac's don't make much of a difference as long as jitter is low...
K
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Post by PinkFloyd on Apr 5, 2009 20:18:20 GMT
You're really in a world of your own aren't you Kris? I have never before read such bullcrap about "solid state" and "valves" and god only knows where you get all this stuff from..... utter bullcrap!
The HEED is a FANTASTIC amp with the K501 / K701 and one of the best I have heard with these 'phones..... What does it matter what's inside it as long as it does the job? It's a good solid amp with a bloody good reputation.... the last I heard it was £220 GBP but maybe the weak pound has seen it rise to £340 GBP?
I don't think you'd like the V-Can at all.... if you think the v2 is sharp then the V-Can will make your ears bleed.... I, personally, like it with the OPA4227 and OPA4132 (quad version of OPA2134) but NOT with the K-701.... it just doesn't have enough klout to drive them to decent levels.... excellent with HD-600 though....
QED MB45 is another superb K-701 driver.... it's an old amp but with 3 watts output it makes light work of shifting the K-701's drivers... sounds pretty decent too.
You could also try the DarkVoice 336i.... it's particularly good with K-701..... you can also experiment with valves to get the signature to your liking.....
A shame you've sold that v2 to someone else, I really wish you'd sent it to me first as NO WAY is your description of the sonics indicative of your normal v2.... quite the opposite in fact..... I suspect something wasn't quite right after you soldered the new caps etc. in (maybe a dry joint somewhere)......
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Post by krisno on Apr 6, 2009 10:52:33 GMT
I tried the V2 on the dac, on standalone cdplayer and on analog output of computer. On all accounts it was screamier and more shrill than solidstate counterpart.
The amp was like that BEFORE the mod also, the mod has nothing to do with it. It really is a bright amp.
I would say OPA2134 is perfect with akg.. but the thing is, you talk about opa2134 on the output stage. That of course is not enough power. You need opa2134 on the input stage and some nice toshiba transistors on the output. Then you will be there...
I am sad about the V2, I thought I should have kepped it. It was the most detailed tube amp I have ever tried, also alot of fun. I agree totally. With a less reveiling headphnoe, maybe 600 or 650, the v2 would be what you want. I dunno... I wanted to like it and on some music I did. But it distorts also.
Darkvoice are so big and heat generating. I want hybrid to keep the heat down. I guess AKG would pair up nicly with one of them, or woo audio. But also big.
But I do agree, the mod is a good package, and the V2, maybe with some better tubes, is a fun little amp. Atleast with sennheiser.. but many people complain of it as bright!! Just search the web. And that is what I felt also. Tubes will always be 'shrill' on AKG. Even the V8 is sharp in the ears sometimes, even though a very lush amp in general.
K
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Post by krisno on Apr 6, 2009 10:53:22 GMT
The Heed is worst I have ever seen electronics wise. That flimsy PSU, it will ruin the house someday, cause a blackout. Those hungarians should burn in hell. Atleast for that price.
.... yes I am sorry the V2 had to leave. I agree. It was kind of my personal work of art, and your mod kit is very nice. But atleast it now will have a happy owner Mike !! If I had had a Sennheiser HD 600 I would probably been happy. The AKG's make you doubt everything.
I got the outcaps now for the DAC, they are massive and way a ton. Supposed to be sweet sounding. Will try and solder it in now.
K
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Post by krisno on Apr 6, 2009 13:04:27 GMT
Here you are... extreme mod. It's smoother straight out of the box.... I thought at first, nothing big, but it really is a big difference! A little too bad my V2 couldn't experience this first... I am sorry for it. Those output caps, its so spacious, and the bass is very detailed. It made me a believer... I wonder why that lehmann clone was so good, wonder if it moves the whole 'sound specter' down a few notches, making everything darker. I don't know, but like I said, before I could really hear the 'colors' of the music with that NOS + lehmann combination. I have never experiened that even with this burson.. hmm.
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Post by krisno on Apr 6, 2009 16:12:57 GMT
You are my only friends!
I might have made a mistake selling the V2. But I must argue that the V2 was not like the V3 when I had it. I don't know why. But it was fast, it was fun and really tube amp like one might want it.
I will see if I can get myself a cheap V3. Order a V3 mod kit and get a pinkie. Atleast I get your orders flowing Mike! We will see... the thing is that the yulong had one bad thing the soundtage was a bit congested. So a opamp solution is not ideal. The burson is not congested at all.
DArkvoice and these guys, Bada 12? Whatever, they are probably good, but they are so big, generate heat etc...
But I was impressed with the mod..... Mike! I got these very expensive tungsram, I didn't dare to put them in the V2 as heat kills the tubes? A v3 is cooler, so safer...
I will think about it. See what comes up on ebay!
Thanks for everything.... those obbligato's is fanstatic bytheway!! (and try a low jitter source, pacecar or offramp, you will be amazed... better than the most expensive transports).
K
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Post by leo on Apr 6, 2009 18:46:17 GMT
So your starting to be a little more happy Kris? Isn't the V3 supposed to be a dynamic sounding HA compared to the V2? If its not too much work it would be worth fitting sleeving on the Obbligato legs to prevent shorting out parts of the circuit. You may also be able to fit a piece of sticky foam on the Obbligato caps and lay them horizontal , if the caps allow it the Valab top cover may be able to be fitted Just be very careful not to short anything on the capacitors copper body
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Post by krisno on Apr 6, 2009 20:10:12 GMT
The obbligato's is the biggest upgrade I have ever done in my life audio wise. It's a bigger transformation than PSU for x-can series, etc. It really is amazing.... film caps are so much better than any electrolytic. This thing almost is vinyl guys.
What do you mean by, 'dynamic sounding HA'? The new V3 I had, made in 2007, shouldnt have sold it, running on my sony player was good... a mood and this dac and sennheiser should be even better. My problem is probably the akg's.
Anyways, the burson got to go.... maybe someone could ship me they jaycar or lend me a lehmann. I stil don't have that drive that the lehmann gave.... my god, amazing, though narrow voices etc.
K
P.S. You should all get a offramp from empirical audio, or pacecar. you will be amazed. jitter is everything.
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Post by krisno on Apr 7, 2009 17:39:45 GMT
GUYS! I think I have this solved...
The reason the Lehmann clone was great is not because of the OPA2134 directly, but because the 2134 is dark sounding. If you have a dark amp I presume that the soundstage is moved a bit 'lower' into the AKG's, that make them sound just amazing. But opamp solutions are not ideal.
It's a pity I can't send the Burson around to you guys, because it really is an amazing amp. The soundstage is so wide(widest i have ever heard), the bass is real '3d', and very spacious. So discrete is great..
But I will return it as it is so big, I am going to make one last try to get this work with my AKG. I am getting the Shanling PH100, it's discrete, and supposed to be very 'dark'. If the thesis is right, then it will be atleast as involving, probably better, than the Lehmann clone.
If this combo doesn't solve it , i will have to sell that also and then get me sennheiser hd600 + modded x-can v3, and then shut the FunKadelic CoWpat up..
If you got the money, try the burson. It is as good as the $2000 from Rudistor.
The Heed btw, as many recommend might be good, but its more expensive and I don't know if its dark enough.. K
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Post by krisno on Apr 8, 2009 18:53:18 GMT
But last thing I have to say... you are really missing out if you have not tried this Burson. It really is good... it has real depth! It is extremly spacious. Amazing stuff... It is just as good as the $2000 Rudistor. But the Rudistor can work as preamp also, and is balanced.
K
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