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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 13:05:30 GMT
I have just received a new pair of Grado sr325i's and it turns out that they have changed colour.
I used to have 325i's a little while ago and didn't like them. I'm not sure of this, but these sound slightly different, I think. They have quite a lot of slam and are less edgy. (I think)
Anyway, if you buy a 325i, don't return it if it's silver. I nearly did.
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Post by allenf on Jan 22, 2009 17:20:22 GMT
Interesting. Are these brand new ones Ian?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 18:56:15 GMT
Yes. Brand new. Sent by accident I think. I got a message from Europe PA guy:
Re: The Grado SR325i has changed colour. It is now SILVER not gold.Shhhhh...... don't tell everyone!
Ian, you are a lucky chap, you've received the latest SR325 headphones at an 'old' price. The new silver SR325 will have a UK suggested selling price of £350 (inc vat @15%)
Best regards
Steve Reichert
Also confirmation from Grado. The picture hasn't changed on the site.
From my memory of the 325i, these sound very slightly different. I'm not absolutely sure because they're so new and not burned in but my gut feeling is they are slightly less toppy or there is a bit more slam in the bottom.
I can see lots of returns if people don't realise 'cos they'll think (like me) that they are the old 325's. I nearly returned them until I got the email from Grado.
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Post by allenf on Jan 22, 2009 19:39:04 GMT
Very interesting. Do they have grill buttons? They must be very new. Headroom haven't updated their photos yet. As for Grado updating the photos on their website...it might take a while. They still show the old-style RS-1s with buttons, the darker mahogany and the old font lettering - and flat pads lol. Edit - excepting the SR-325i bowls and the GS1000 bagels every Grado is pictured with flats - even SR-60 which comes with the comfies
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 20:10:40 GMT
Yes.... they have a grill button and even worse, the button says 325 with an i missing. The old sr325i also had a button with 325 on it.
I wish they'd leave the buttons off actually.
I don't understand why Grado haven't advertised anything since it could lead to troubles with people in the know, mistakenly thinking that they are ordinary 325's.
The kind of person buying a 325 won't be your average Joe and his ipod, so they'd probably know. (Although someone on Headfi has just turned up with a picture of one he bought recently and never mentioned it to anyone on the site)
Maybe Grado are saving money by using the same housing as Alessandro.
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Post by allenf on Jan 22, 2009 21:44:22 GMT
The housing is identical to the Alessandro MS2i - with the exception of the old gold anodyne, though the Alessandro drivers are different.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 22:13:16 GMT
If it's just the housing, the price rise is a bit much. UK price of £350 is high.
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Post by FritzS on Jan 23, 2009 6:17:28 GMT
Please check where they are made, rumor is that they are no longer made in the USA. Made in China? Or? Or only a bad hoax The german HiFi magazine "Audio" range the 325i on the same level as D7000
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Post by allenf on Jan 23, 2009 7:32:32 GMT
I find my MS2is (which are identical to the 325i excepting the drivers) to exceed my HD650s in the areas of both comfort and sound quality. IMHO of course I have performed the driver damping mod. They sound substantially better than standard, and sound better than the new pair of MS-Pros I owned a few months ago But I can't comment on the 325is because I haven't heard them, although Ian is suggesting that the newer ones may be a little less bright than the older ones, which sounds promising. I've just spotted Ian's thread on the other site, I'll have a read of that. Grados have always been horrendously overpriced outside of the US; now that the £ has slid from $2.00 to $1.40 the importer hasn't missed the opportunity to jack the price up even higher with the new model. Shame.
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Post by rickcr42 on Jan 23, 2009 17:26:54 GMT
The original "Joe" Grado studio headphones all used aluminum housings and were voiced to nuetrality,something most think they want but really don't (or they wouldn't use HD600's/650's in such quanities) with the top model differeng from the second tie model differences being the addition of a polarity switch for each driver mounted directly at the earpiece in the top model.As you moved down the line the differences would be in driver matching only so in short-ALL were the same headphones but with degrees of accuracy going from accurate studio monitor to semi-pro/consumer level
(BTW-the reason for the rotating earpieces was so they could lay flat on a recording console,something carries over to the current Grado lineup)
The "John" Grado headphones were from the outset designed as music RE-producers in a domestic environment so choices were made in the voicing to make them more "hi-Fi" freindly than brutally accurate with the top of the line RS-1's and RS-2's using the well known "tone" of wood in conjunction with the driver response to create a headphoner that from the outset was designed as a "system" so for instance if you take the drivers out of the wood or replace the grado drivers inside the wood with other drivers you would get a totally different frequency response due to the tuned nature of the two.
The Alessandro cans are in my opinion an attempt to get back to the original "Joe" Grado voicing using the current headphone "shells" so it is quite possible the auminum cased 325 Alessandro and maybe this "new" Grado are in fact the originals as designed for studio monitoring.
just a "best guess" on my part but the evidence leads in that direction
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 23, 2009 22:59:52 GMT
Urgh Did someone mention "Grado"?
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Post by FritzS on Jan 24, 2009 7:46:16 GMT
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Post by allenf on Jan 24, 2009 9:21:18 GMT
^^The photo of the "SR325i" in the link is wrong, it is a photo of one of the plastic Grados...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 16:22:25 GMT
Well, I'm going from memory. I had the old 325i for a short while and really couldn't get on with them. The top end in particular was just ott for me and I felt nothing down below. (If you'll pardon the expression). Quite similar to how I feel about the ATH-AD1000. Beautifully clear, but the treble 'clatters'. Can't get on with them. (I keep trying)
I'm quite sensitive to treble so maybe that's why I feel that these are very slightly different. (I must have a good memory 'cos I spotted the extra 'warmth of the Beyer DT880 from memory as well when it first came out!!) One guy had a Beyer fixation and was going mad at me 'cos he was so upset that I dared to mention Beyer treble response.
With these, I feel a slightly quicker 'slam' in the bass and very slightly less sting at the top. With what could be a slight 'warmth' and less sting, they feel more mellow.
Either that, or I had a duff pair last time and I went and sold them off to someone.
It's too early to really comment on sound 'cos these may well change, but so far, they are becoming one of my favourite 'phones. Their clarity and speed of attack is quite amazing imo and give a fantastic insight right into the music that you're listening to. Not for bass people, but clear punch people, they are terrific.
I've been listening to many different genres of music and I think they do well with most. Classical stuff seems open. Brass could be edgy if they are played too loud. I have been keeping the volume down and they seem to give a more clear and articulate sound picture like that. 'Poppy' stuff like Yello is great because you can really hear a fast bass slam, leaving the headphones able to respond to further detail after the initial slam, so you start to hear much more lower detail, like how a conga is being hit through quite full mixes. The bass just doesn't push everything else out of the way. MP3/AAC - I can hear low and higher bit rates more easily, probably because of that open treble response.
I like them. (Even before break in)
Ian
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