X-10D V1 vs X-10D V3?

[hawkemoon]

I am aware that the MF valve buffer stage is primarily used between a CD/DVD player to enhance the audio/video performance. My question is, with reference to an audio system, would the stage not be better utilized between the pre-amp and power amp, thus benefiting the whole system? Secondly, which MF stage is better, the V1 or the V3 version? They are both upgradeable but which is a better in standard form and/or after upgrading?

Comments/advice gratefully received.

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My question is, with reference to an audio system, would the stage not be better utilized between the pre-amp and power amp, thus benefiting the whole system?

Hawekemoon
A well designed preamplifier would not benefit from an additional buffer stage between it and the amplifier. There MAY be a case for interposing a buffer stage between a source component of dubious quality, or perhaps a source using a valve output stage. Use of a valve buffer stage may appeal, however, to those that prefer a warmer and artificially "sweet" sound.It will however normally be at the expense of a small reduction in upper treble in the majority of cases, and also a small reduction in overall system signal to noise performance.
SandyK

[sometrolls2]

The V3 is based on the output stage of MF's higher end CD players and is the main reason that they review well, so if you are to get one get the V3 as you can always sell it for very little loss. I'd like to see someone integrate the V3 into the output of a CD player bypassing the CD output stage and V3 input filter bits.

[XTRProf]

I have a V3 and IMVHO, the best result is between the source and pre. At the pre and amp, the result is not as satisfying as betwen source and pre. I just dunno why. Maybe, Alex can explain the phenomenon. ;D

However, after playing around with op amp, again IMVHO, the same result can be had if you use a BB 2354. The V3 stock can be glaring so you must mode it with better parts b4 it be a gem. Ask Chris, if possible at AA DIY/Tweak, as he has more mode experience with the V3 then me as he goes for broke. The V3 will be better than V1 as it uses mil spec 6112 tubes which have lesser microphony. However, you may be looking for euphonic tube sound which the mil spec may not provide so much due to its mil specs. You better try it, if possible, before purchase. I had no choice as it came with my X-Dac V3.

Hopes this helps.

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XTRProf
Just a quick answer. Most source components don't have high quality output buffer stages, unless you have purchased a top of the range model. Decent Preamplifiers are specificially designed to match the vagaries of an unknown length,or type of interconnect. i.e. The amount of load capacitance should not worry them due to their (usually) lower output impedance.
Has Chris given up on us unbelievers ?
Alex

[XTRProf]

sandyk said:

XTRProf

Has Chris given up on us unbelievers ?

Ha, he's still very active in mode but at AA now.

[XTRProf]

mrarroyo said:

Who is Chris?

This is Chris. Ya?


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