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Post by hower on May 15, 2006 4:14:50 GMT
Why there is no suggestion of using the excellent Black Gate N or NX Series capacitors for the output stage of the X-CAN V3? It is also Bi-polar or Non-Polar, right?
Instead of mounting the Nitai NP, I installed 2x Black Gate N 1000uf 25v, and have great results. Of course the price is scary, more than 10x the cost of the Nitai.
My first listening to it is not too pleasing, sound is rather harsh. But after letting it burn in on its old (with a old 6922 tube) for 72 hours, it sound much sweeter now.
For those where $$$ is not an issue, you should consider using the Black Gate N or NX series.
Just my personal opinion...
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Post by bassdude on May 16, 2006 22:07:19 GMT
Are those the Standard series?
Are they the same size as the Panasonics, and do they fit correctly?
About how much is the average price per cap?
Thanks,
Bassdude
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Post by PinkFloyd on May 16, 2006 22:44:40 GMT
Tried them ages ago and wouldn't touch them with a bargepole in the X-CAN amps. From memory they were harsh and gritty sounding and they just wouldn't tame so I ended up firing them into a PSU where they performed a LOT better. The Nitai caps aren't too bad but I now prefer the CD71 105C non polars, they're cheap but they perform well and don't really add too much of a signature to the sound, The Nitai was ever so slightly grainy in comparison. Some people swear by Black Gates but one thing they all agree on is this "few months burn in period" before they sound good. I don't know if this is a myth and their ears are just getting used to the sound of them but, in my experience of caps, "months" is a bit too long to wait for them to hit the sweet spot. a couple of hundred hours yes but "months"? Noooooo  Black Gates (and cerafines to a certain degree) are pretty much ruled out in the V2 due to the size constraints but, if you can source them and "if" you can shoehorn them in the Cerafines are excellent caps to use on the PSU board..... Pity they're only 85C rated though. Stick with those black gates though and let me know what they sound like in a few hundred hours? All the best. Mike. |
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Post by hower on May 17, 2006 0:33:47 GMT
Cannot really remember the price. It is about US$12 each. It can fit in nicely into the V3, bend down as usual. Are those the Standard series? Are they the same size as the Panasonics, and do they fit correctly? About how much is the average price per cap? Thanks, Bassdude |
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Post by hower on May 17, 2006 0:34:21 GMT
Thanks for the update. Tried them ages ago and wouldn't touch them with a bargepole in the X-CAN amps. From memory they were harsh and gritty sounding and they just wouldn't tame so I ended up firing them into a PSU where they performed a LOT better. The Nitai caps aren't too bad but I now prefer the CD71 105C non polars, they're cheap but they perform well and don't really add too much of a signature to the sound, The Nitai was ever so slightly grainy in comparison. Some people swear by Black Gates but one thing they all agree on is this "few months burn in period" before they sound good. I don't know if this is a myth and their ears are just getting used to the sound of them but, in my experience of caps, "months" is a bit too long to wait for them to hit the sweet spot. a couple of hundred hours yes but "months"? Noooooo Black Gates (and cerafines to a certain degree) are pretty much ruled out in the V2 due to the size constraints but, if you can source them and "if" you can shoehorn them in the Cerafines are excellent caps to use on the PSU board..... Pity they're only 85C rated though. Stick with those black gates though and let me know what they sound like in a few hundred hours? All the best. Mike. |
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