X-P100 died! Still has power but no audio output, bit smelly

[roscored]

Hi guys

being new to the forum I thought I would ask the brains trust for advice.

I have a MF system all X-Ray, 2x X-AS100, X-Ray CD and of course the X-P100, this all goes through a pair of Jamo Concert 8 speakers.

Anyway I have had them since new for about 18 or so years and dont use it much, I dont have a lot of CDs so limited my use of it, it sounds or sounded great till yesterday. Happily playing a CD and then it sounded very crackly, smelt of hotness and then no sound.

It still had power so tested the out put using a few plug in devices but no go at all, the remote was still working, changing the volume selector and inputs etc but no sound.

Have taken it to where it was purchased so long ago, as they give great service here in Australia. It has been sent off for a quote on repairs, that is why I am here.

Is this a fairly common problem eg no sound? Is it an easy fix? How long is a piece of string? Yes I know I dont have any more info at this stage but was wondering if once I know what the damage is maybe it is fixable or upgradeable.

I dont really want to part with it, but I dont want to spend heaps to fix it or heaps to replace it.

Are they fixable? Are parts available from MF?

Thanks for any help or advice.

[eightdigitword]

posted a reply to this on the other thread. didn't see this before i did. see what the quote is to repair, it shouldn't be expensive. decide if you want to try repairing yourself, i expect it will be repairable but need to see inside it.

they go for £300-400 here, what ever that is in Aussie shmeckles. so i wouldnt pay more than that to fix it.

[roscored]

Hi thanks for the 2 responses, I will have to wait and see what happens, even though they cost a lot to buy, when new, they are not going to be worth much now. It sounds terrific but if it is over my budget i will have to look at , dare I say, using my Denon receiver as the pre amp type device though the sound quality will fall dramatically.I will keep you informed. cheers

[nando]

Hi,

I have the nu vista pre amp which is almost the same as your xp100. All the caps were replaced by me and then some work on other components as well. It isn’t a very difficult machine to work on exept for the limited space inside.
I had a talk with a shop owner a while back when I asked about the repair of a x-pre. Tha man said that there are no spare parts any more. This was a big lie and he clearly tries to sell me something new. Don’t fall for this nonsense! MF apparatus is great and no quantum mechanics kind of difficult.

The amp stinks? Could be a electrolytic capacitor, those stink when they pop.
Are you sure the xp100 is faulty? So all the other x components are good?

I hope the costs are resonable.

[roscored]

Hi nando
Yes it has definitely stopped putting out audio, it still has power to the unit though, just no audio.
I was in Singapore yesterday and the dealer there was trying to sell me the M1 CLIC, which looks ok and performs fine but it is a discontinued model from 2011 as a new model? I am not prepared to spend $1200 for an item out of date with no support, great though it may be. Oh and all the other X bits are fine.

[nando]

The xp100 is probably repairable but you have to find someone trustworthy and not too expensive or do it yourself.

I found this forum (Mike!) very helpful. Ask away.

[roscored]

Doing it myself could be interesting, desoldering are resoldering wont be the problem as i have done a few drone motherboards in the past, it is just working out what is kefuffed and what isnt.

[PinkFloyd]

Feb 7, 2019 5:15:09 GMT roscored said:

Doing it myself could be interesting, desoldering are resoldering wont be the problem as i have done a few drone motherboards in the past, it is just working out what is kefuffed and what isnt.

Do You have any close up photos?

MIke.

[roscored]

No photos as it is still away getting a quote to fix. Hopefully next week I will get it back. No just found the guy is away on holidays so it will take 4 weeks more, oh well.

[nando]

4 weeks? Repairing elektronics is paying well these days?

If you are a little handy with a soldering iron, you can probably repair the xp100 yourself. The normal components are easy replaced. There are a few items that might be a bigger problem like some IC's, but that's outside my expertise.

The selector switch is a rotten bloody thing. It isn't available new and a real puzzle to get into (you might have guessed that I'm trying to solve that puzzle right now)

[roscored]

Hi nando Yes I was given the wrong information by the shop sending it off for a quote, they didnt realise the guy was away and of course there are other items before mine. Anyway if the quote is too high then I will have a go at fixing it myself, though trying to work out what is burnt out and what isnt will be the issue for me and my miniscule electronics knowledge. I assume that there are guides or lists of things to replace regardless as they are getting old now? And all of these little electronics are numbered in some way?

[nando]

Welcome in the misty world of (MF) components and repairs. Don’t worry, I was at your level some years ago. I’ve learned a lot from Mike and others but am not by any means an electrical engineer. And you don’t need to be either.

There are no schematics of the circuit boards from MF so we have to do with what we can see and find out.
If there is a smell of burned components, I suspect it’s easy to see ehat component is faulty (black marks, deformed shape, smelly, guts hanging out of the component etc). But there might be more damage.

I can get you a list of components I used on my Nu Vista. I’m pretty sure it is a 1 on 1 match with the xp100 exept the valves (tubes). So if you want to spend some more and do the whole thing, just ask. (I went all out with my choice of components so they are not the cheapest but by no means exotic either).

[roscored]

Thanks any help would be appreciated, if it turns out to be an expensive professional fix then I would be happy to have a go at it.

[nando]

If it’s the standard components than it’s easy enougb to repair it yourself. Stuff like electrolytic capacitors or resistors are easy if you practise enough with an soldering iron.

[roscored]

HI i have had a quote of $340 AUD to repair so have gone with that, I dont have the electrical knowledge to do the job properly so will pay the eperts, it seems there were a fair few things burnt out.

[eightdigitword]

Hi roscored,

what things were burnt out?

[PinkFloyd]

Ask them for a list of what they replaced, it will be interesting.

Mike.

[roscored]

ok thats a good idea.

[roscored]

Well I got my little silver box home and it works a treat, unfortunately the fixer was not interested in telling me what he had replaced. He just said that he fixes as he goes till it works again. so no closer. It works and hopefully will continue to work for many more years. thanks for the guidance along this little journey guys.

[nando]

Good! I hope that will bring you many years of pleasure to your ears.

No photo from the inside? 🥺

[roscored]

to be honest I dont really want to open it up. but i would assume there would not be any upgraded stuff just bog standard part for part.

[PinkFloyd]

Mar 26, 2019 9:06:28 GMT roscored said:

to be honest I dont really want to open it up. but i would assume there would not be any upgraded stuff just bog standard part for part.

FFS! pop the hood man........ take a few photos.