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Post by dalethorn on Aug 20, 2012 17:48:56 GMT
I received the Philips Fidelio M1 today, and I am astounded at the sound. Whereas the L1 has a high fidelity treble response (despite a rather emphasized bass), the M1 has essentially no treble. I compared the M1 to the L1, and then I compared the M1 to the v-moda M-80 which has a recessed treble compared to all of my best headphones. The M1 sounds like its treble is 20 db down compared to the M80, and far worse compared to the L1 and Shure 1840, to name a couple of hi-fi headphones. I've seen a couple of frequency response curves on the M1 that suggest the treble isn't that bad, so perhaps this is a quality control issue? The drivers are perfectly matched in output and there's no indication that they're not working correctly.
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funk1969
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Post by funk1969 on Aug 20, 2012 18:38:18 GMT
No information from the highs? Then I assume the M1 is perfect for masking 'ugly' MP3s.
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Post by dalethorn on Aug 20, 2012 21:08:24 GMT
No information from the highs? Then I assume the M1 is perfect for masking 'ugly' MP3s. Actually I would say the B&W P3 or P5, or the v-moda M80 would be perfect for masking low-quality tracks. The M1's treble is so far down that even bad MP3's would sound much worse. It's very nearly as bad as the Pioneer SE-MJ591, which was totally, completely lifeless. I'm waiting to hear from people who can validate just where their samples lie on the sound curve, with real comparisons, in case of sample-to-sample variances. But I doubt there will be anything definitive. I can't imagine any audiophile making use of the M1.
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Post by XTRProf on Aug 22, 2012 15:16:54 GMT
So the review that I linked to is correct in their accessment, eh? When there is L1, I can reiterate we can forget about the M1 especially when the L1 can be gotten for 40% off.
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Post by dalethorn on Aug 22, 2012 15:47:49 GMT
So the review that I linked to is correct in their accessment, eh? When there is L1, I can reiterate we can forget about the M1 especially when the L1 can be gotten for 40% off. In my experience, the L1 is just too bulky for a walkabout headphone. The M1 is much more appropriate in size. Philips Sound has acknowledged my concerns about the M1's very muted highs, and the wide range of differences in their "house" reviews, and promises to forward my questions to the M1 specialists at Philips.
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funk1969
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Post by funk1969 on Aug 22, 2012 20:14:43 GMT
Get the SHP6000 and SHP8000 if you want the good Philips headphones, I'm not joking.
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Post by dalethorn on Aug 23, 2012 2:55:06 GMT
I'll add those to my list, although I don't know why I'd want to give Philips more of my money any time soon. I thought for $250 USD the M1 would be a really deluxe small item, but it looks and feels about like a $100 headphone.
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Post by funk1969 on Aug 23, 2012 8:14:14 GMT
The SHP6000 costs 50 euros here, the SHP8000 80 euros. Go figure...
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Post by dalethorn on Aug 23, 2012 21:28:52 GMT
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