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Post by Will on Jul 20, 2012 19:41:50 GMT
Hi Guys,
I'm after a pair of headphones for use during sports activity (running, cycling) and was after some recommendations.
I've only used a couple of in-ear headphones (generic types and a pair of Sonys) and never got on with them, although have not tried any of the type that sit in your ears like ear defenders.
I think I'd prefer some that sit on your ears, but am not really sure.
Open to ideas, and looking to spend up to £40.
Oh, and they'll be fed by a Sansa Clip+
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Post by elysion on Jul 20, 2012 20:20:55 GMT
Probably in-ears, maybe also some IEM would be the way to go. Sennheiser sells a couple of models which are specifically made for use during sports.
If you can't get comfortable with in-ears, which is also my personal problem, I'd recommend the HD25-1/II's without any doubt. It's almost the only model which is not in-ear and is usable for sports. Sennheiser had also released a special (blue) colour variant of them which was sold with the Adidas brand.
If you like it "experimental", you can also go for the Sennheiser Surrounder. At least if you glue it to your shoulders.
BTW: I wouldn't recommend ANY headphones for use in road traffic, especially with cycling. It can be really dangernous if you don't hear the car that is too close to you.
I must admit that I do use my HD25-1/II's also when I'm walking, sometimes even while I'm in a city. But I still hear most things since I won't use them at an insane volume level and I put them off when I feel it could be dangerous for me otherwise.
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Post by Will on Jul 20, 2012 20:38:20 GMT
Hi Christian, Thanks for your thoughts. I completely agree about wearing headphones on the road, not a good thing. I would guess that any headphone that isolates (ear buds or closed, well fitting types) are not going to be a good idea. Had a look at the HD25-1/II, and the design looks very similar to my AKG 518 headphones, and I know that they'll stay on. Hmm, seems open back, on ear might be best/safest?
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Post by elysion on Jul 20, 2012 20:56:11 GMT
Open-back can be also a problem: Depending on the surrounding environment, it could be hard to enjoy the music at all. But sure, if the environment is calm, you still hear the environment.
I've had outside listening session more than once with open-back headphones. When you're out in the nature, it gives you really the feeling of being "there". It's like attending an outdoor concert.
Most good open-back 'phones are circum-aural though. And most don't "stick" on your head when you are moving. The HD414's are supral-aural and open-back. The have a nice midrange, but lack in the top and the bass is almost inexistient. I have the HD414's 50th anniversary edition with 52Ohm. These would also work well with an iPod. But the original HD414's have 2K Ohm (!!!), these are a different kind of beast. There's another problem with the HD414's: They are very comfortable because they have large supral-aural foam pads. But this foam will be soaked in sweat almost instantly. Probably only an option if you replace the pads often and/or wash them. The replacement pads are cheap at least. It's probably hard to get the 50th anniversary edition with 52 Ohms though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 22:00:15 GMT
Another one to throw in on the basis of a different HP Sony used to make some on thin band (Sports series) where the tranducers fitted sort of sideways into your ears. These were actually rather good and as someone who does not get on with in ear or buds, they were a good and comfortable solution. The current Sennheiser PMX80II is a similar design with decent reviews, might be worth a stab
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Post by Will on Jul 21, 2012 8:18:40 GMT
Hi Chris, Those Sennheisers sound interesting, and maybe a bit less obtrusive when out and about. I have a set of Philips ear-clip types (similar to the shs3200) and they are uncomfortable, digging into the cartilage of my ear. If I remember right, you've used something similar in the past?. How would you compare the two (philips ear clip and the Sony's you mention) and did you use them in a sporting situation ? (ooh er missus )
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2012 12:56:35 GMT
Will, sounds like I have the same problem with the clip style as you! Yes, I used the Sonys while cycling, I was seriously into the sport as a teenager and the Sonys did a good job on the music while you can still hear the outside world. Of course it was cassette Walkmans back then
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2012 13:41:07 GMT
WOW!!!! I was using them in the 70's I think it was. In fact, I remember seeing a shot of me somewhere with them on.
They were a lovely headphone. I didn't know that you could still get them!!
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Post by elysion on Jul 21, 2012 15:29:03 GMT
You can't get them new from Sennheiser. I've got a pair of the 50th anniversary edition a few years ago from a Swiss online auction. The pair was still new in box.
I've seen more than only some 50th anniversary models on sale in auctions. But they are rare.
It's almost no problem to get spare parts for them from Sennheiser. The yellow earpads are also on sale at thomann.de. And they are cheap, probably also because it is only a piece of yellow foam.
The HD414's are very likely one of the 'phones which Sennheiser did sell the most. They have been in production over decades and the earpads have been always the same beside the colours. The black/yellow colour scheme of the later HD414's was introduced somewhen in the 70's or 80's (I don't recall it exactly, but I guess wikiphonia has the correct information). Before the colour change, it was a grey/light blue colour scheme.
The 50th anniversary models sound the same light the old models (I guess since my experience of the new models was identical to what Mike has said about the old 2K Ohm models), but have 52Ohm drivers. Much more useful than 2K Ohm, I think.
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