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May 31, 2012 18:39:39 GMT
Post by dalethorn on May 31, 2012 18:39:39 GMT
This one is strange. I like girly groups and this one sounds like the modern variety. The only way I can imagine Stereophile listing this is because 1) They're friends or relatives of someone, or 2) Because of the speaker question (large floorstanders in the video). www.stereophile.com/content/teen-better
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Jun 1, 2012 12:05:37 GMT
Post by XTRProf on Jun 1, 2012 12:05:37 GMT
Then you must like The Go Go too? Quite a wonderful recording there closer to Live. Not much sibilance and just natural sound. We can hear even thru a HP and a laptop soundcard that there is a definite imaginary recording space they are in. I like the video music and if all tracks are like that in the CD, I will get a copy myself when released. Thanks for sharing here ............
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Jun 1, 2012 12:44:58 GMT
Post by dalethorn on Jun 1, 2012 12:44:58 GMT
I have quite a few CD's and digital tracks of indie groups from 80's to 90's that are unfortunately lo-fi quality. Today the recording gear for independent artists is much better, but even many of the old recordings can be much better if remastered by someone who really cares about sound quality and has the time. I hope that someday someone sets up a website that's a clearing house for remastering old and independent recordings, to give all of us the opportunity to order better copies, and reward the artists too.
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Jun 1, 2012 13:19:43 GMT
Post by XTRProf on Jun 1, 2012 13:19:43 GMT
but even many of the old recordings can be much better if remastered by someone who really cares about sound quality and has the time. I hope that someday someone sets up a website that's a clearing house for remastering old and independent recordings, to give all of us the opportunity to order better copies, and reward the artists too. Er, that dependents on whether the original recording on tape is recorded well too. If it's a poor master, no matter how people like Steve Hoffman, Doug Sax, Bob Ludwig, etc manipulate the controls, it will still be of poor sound. Well, you can send your request to Steve Hoffman. I heard that he will consider if there is significant enough interest.
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Jun 1, 2012 16:02:48 GMT
Post by dalethorn on Jun 1, 2012 16:02:48 GMT
Er, that dependents on whether the original recording on tape is recorded well too. If it's a poor master, no matter how people like Steve Hoffman, Doug Sax, Bob Ludwig, etc manipulate the controls, it will still be of poor sound. Well, you can send your request to Steve Hoffman. I heard that he will consider if there is significant enough interest. What it really comes down to is a lot of hard work. While it's true you can't remake bad recordings into good ones, the goal with bad recordings is to reduce irritations and artifacts that obscure what's there so you can at least enjoy what's there to some extent. Another important long-term goal is to improve the cleanup tools and the degree of automation so that cleanups can be extended to more recordings, since labor is a big limiter. I bought 2 classic DVD's recently - 1931's Dracula and 1932's Mummy - the originals had terrible sound - really awful. But the cleaned up soundtracks made the films much more enjoyable. I hope it isn't too much longer until some of the early 1900's mechanical recordings can also be cleaned up at least as well as had been done with Caruso's. In the 1970's Stockhausen/Soundstream made some progress with Caruso, but today's techniques are far better. The voice is so good today about the only thing lacking is the presence and treble, but I have read that the computer people will have that down within the next 5 to 6 years.
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Jun 2, 2012 3:33:55 GMT
Post by XTRProf on Jun 2, 2012 3:33:55 GMT
What it really comes down to is a lot of hard work. While it's true you can't remake bad recordings into good ones, the goal with bad recordings is to reduce irritations and artifacts that obscure what's there so you can at least enjoy what's there to some extent. Another important long-term goal is to improve the cleanup tools and the degree of automation so that cleanups can be extended to more recordings, since labor is a big limiter. I bought 2 classic DVD's recently - 1931's Dracula and 1932's Mummy - the originals had terrible sound - really awful. But the cleaned up soundtracks made the films much more enjoyable. I hope it isn't too much longer until some of the early 1900's mechanical recordings can also be cleaned up at least as well as had been done with Caruso's. In the 1970's Stockhausen/Soundstream made some progress with Caruso, but today's techniques are far better. The voice is so good today about the only thing lacking is the presence and treble, but I have read that the computer people will have that down within the next 5 to 6 years. You got a point here. Ok, from a clean up and less distracting perspective and not hifi perspective ................
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