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Post by XTRProf on Dec 18, 2011 13:17:33 GMT
Any comments how far is the sound apart. Yeah, I know they will have the planar for lunch/dinner/supper but by how much in HPs? Also which electrostatic amps will be the best VFM for them? 2nd hand is also ok.
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Post by pagan on Dec 18, 2011 14:07:44 GMT
between the Stax SR507 Vs SR007 0r 009 for differences in sound quality?? Hard to say , nut a big difference in price.. especially when you need and amp for them too. I still have an old pair of Lambda's and a pair of Koss ESP-950. I prefer the electrostatics, but they do need a decent amp. I use an eXstata amp with them. Do have the pcb's and parts for KGSS amp, just need the time. From what I've read the SR407 is the value for money area, but havn't listened to the new range yet. This place has a lot of info... www.head-case.org/forums/forum.phpAllan
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Post by mrarroyo on Dec 18, 2011 15:40:03 GMT
If any of you chooses to visit and post in Head Case be careful. Some of the members are very knowledgeable but it is kind of a club and new members are chastised/ridicule so post carefully.
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Post by pagan on Dec 18, 2011 21:33:27 GMT
If any of you chooses to visit and post in Head Case be careful. Some of the members are very knowledgeable but it is kind of a club and new members are chastised/ridicule so post carefully. Yes, I havn't posted there yet But there is a lot of info there allan
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 2:47:00 GMT
If any of you chooses to visit and post in Head Case be careful. Some of the members are very knowledgeable but it is kind of a club and new members are chastised/ridicule so post carefully. Heh, heh, I think the Stax will also be a club within a club there as well as it's more or less the pinnacle of HPs. I think the current Senns and Audezes are just "2nd rate" in the eyes of those at the top of HP onwership.
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 3:01:55 GMT
between the Stax SR507 Vs SR007 0r 009 for differences in sound quality?? Hard to say , nut a big difference in price.. especially when you need and amp for them too. I'm actually giving this as an alternative as the top Audezes and Senns are already in that price range of the Stax without the electrostatic amp. Yes, I'm after the sound part as the 007 and 009 are about 2 to 3 times the price of the 507 and that's not even with an electrostatic amp yet. From some peliminary reads from googling, the old SRM T1 Mk 2 is very good, right? Has anyone cloned a T1 Mk 2 pcb and part list yet? It seems the Woo Audio WES and the Blue Hawaii (can't remember precisely as just browse thru the reads) will blow the T1 away but then at another out of this world price. I still have an old pair of Lambda's and a pair of Koss ESP-950. I prefer the electrostatics, but they do need a decent amp. I use an eXstata amp with them. Do have the pcb's and parts for KGSS amp, just need the time. From what I've read the SR407 is the value for money area, but havn't listened to the new range yet. This place has a lot of info... www.head-case.org/forums/forum.phpGreat! Thanks for the link. Where did you get the PCB and part list for the KGSS? You etched yourself? That will be a very good way to good sound for the Stax.
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Post by pagan on Dec 19, 2011 4:20:42 GMT
I got the pcb's from here www.headamp.com/BOM was from the old Headwize site, original data hasn't changed that much, just some components are very hard to source. I think they were the last pcbs, there's a new version IIRC a HV one. The development info are in that site. They "KG" has also done some development on the SRM T1 Mk 2. The Stax HP's arn't cheap, especially when you need an amp as well but that all relevant to the market. but then some people pay ten's of thousands for normal amps and even more for there speakers. You need to have a listen to them and then you can decide whether to extra to the 007/009's are worth it compared to the 507's. Or even the other lower ones. Remember it's audio.... Double the price does not mean double the sound quality.
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 6:15:09 GMT
Remember it's audio.... Double the price does not mean double the sound quality. Yup, every right in that statement. Let me check out the site for more info. Best will be having the info to clone a T1 Mk2 when cannot afford the Woo and Blue Hawaii.
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 6:47:59 GMT
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Post by JohnnyBlue on Dec 19, 2011 7:01:41 GMT
I spent years and £000s on the Stax route, culminating with the Omega II SR-007 and SRM-717 combo: it was all a big, and very expensive, mistake. Luckily for me, most of my gear was bought secondhand so I didn't lose money on the stuff I've since sold, but it was a lot of heartache (and I do still have a lot of the older gear).
I was into the Stax thread (new and old) on Head-Fi, and was lead massively by what I read there, as I am now here at RG; the difference is that I was then spending hundreds (or more) at a time, and now through RG I'm discovering bargains for £15 to £100.
If you value music, not hi-fi, avoid Stax: some secondhand Sennheiser HD580s or 600s and a half-decent HPA will blow any Stax combo out of the water. (And, if you're interested, I can direct you to posts on the Internet where I relate the whole sorry story of my Stax saga... )
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 7:41:50 GMT
I spent years and �000s on the Stax route, culminating with the Omega II SR-007 and SRM-717 combo: it was all a big, and very expensive, mistake. Luckily for me, most of my gear was bought secondhand so I didn't lose money on the stuff I've since sold, but it was a lot of heartache (and I do still have a lot of the older gear). I was into the Stax thread (new and old) on Head-Fi, and was lead massively by what I read there, as I am now here at RG; the difference is that I was then spending hundreds (or more) at a time, and now through RG I'm discovering bargains for �15 to �100. If you value music, not hi-fi, avoid Stax: some secondhand Sennheiser HD580s or 600s and a half-decent HPA will blow any Stax combo out of the water. (And, if you're interested, I can direct you to posts on the Internet where I relate the whole sorry story of my Stax saga... ) Hi John, Yes, do lead me to your posts for a balance. Btw, why are so upset with the Stax. Can you put that out in one phrase here for all to dissect? Thanks.
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Post by JohnnyBlue on Dec 19, 2011 8:06:45 GMT
Three years ago I put together various posts I'd made on Head-Fi and Pink Fish, together with various replies, here. It is not a coherent narrative, but you'll get a feel for what I and some others think about Stax. As always, YMMV. Because I spent an awful lot of money going down the Stax route, that (for me) ultimately proved completely fruitless: it all sounds absolutely stunning (clean, clear, delicate, detailed, precise) but (to my ears/brain) can't play tunes!
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 8:20:00 GMT
Thanks for the alternatives. It's always good to heard or read the alternatives as these give us a balance and fuller life. Because I spent an awful lot of money going down the Stax route, that (for me) ultimately proved completely fruitless: it all sounds absolutely stunning (clean, clear, delicate, detailed, precise) but (to my ears/brain) can't play tunes! So basically nothing major except you can't follow the music as good as in Linn and Naim systems, eh. For a second, I thought 2012.
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Post by XTRProf on Dec 19, 2011 9:12:23 GMT
I really like your ending statement of: This coming from a master organ tuner like you.
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Post by JohnnyBlue on Dec 19, 2011 9:24:17 GMT
Although I agree totally with the statement you've highlighted, it was actually one of the many responses (probably on Head-Fi, or it might have been PM) to my various posts, rather than from me.
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Post by pagan on Dec 20, 2011 0:04:06 GMT
I spent years and £000s on the Stax route, culminating with the Omega II SR-007 and SRM-717 combo: it was all a big, and very expensive, mistake. Luckily for me, most of my gear was bought secondhand so I didn't lose money on the stuff I've since sold, but it was a lot of heartache (and I do still have a lot of the older gear). I was into the Stax thread (new and old) on Head-Fi, and was lead massively by what I read there, as I am now here at RG; the difference is that I was then spending hundreds (or more) at a time, and now through RG I'm discovering bargains for £15 to £100. If you value music, not hi-fi, avoid Stax: some secondhand Sennheiser HD580s or 600s and a half-decent HPA will blow any Stax combo out of the water. (And, if you're interested, I can direct you to posts on the Internet where I relate the whole sorry story of my Stax saga... ) That's why I said you've really got to listen to any gear first, and make your own opinion as to what you hear. Beware of some sites as some do have a vested interest in a product.
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Post by XTRProf on Aug 25, 2012 21:50:38 GMT
At last, got my hands on a pair of 009 yesterday and I was impressed. Not super impress though as there are the Shure 1840 and 1440 and LCD 2 or 3 and HD 700 and 800 which sounded close to it with some variations at more "reasonable" prices. But for the ultimate in sound, I don't think there is any better HPs. I must make it clear that what I had written here is not meant to say I own a 009 now. But I hope I could.
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Post by joethearachnid on Aug 25, 2012 22:42:26 GMT
I heard several pairs of SR-009 in Japan and was reasonably impressed. I couldn't really trial them with my own music and didn't do any extensive listening so can't exactly comment on sound, but still I find them... disappointing. The biggest myth in audio is that at some point up the chain, a hifi system will actually sound like real life. There I was, listening to the most expensive current-production headphones in existence (I think?) and... I was still listening to a pair of headphones. Sure the transients and whatnot are sublime, but is it REALLY that much of an improvement from my still-favourite Panda/HD 595 combo in terms of sounding like live music? Not really.
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Post by XTRProf on Aug 26, 2012 3:28:02 GMT
Btw GI Joe,
How much is a Stax 009 in Japan? Also, the Stax 007t HA?
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Post by joethearachnid on Aug 27, 2012 16:49:25 GMT
I never actually looked very carefully at prices to be honest. It's not something that will ever be within my budget so the numbers don't really mean anything to me. Sorry. -JoetheArachnid
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