toad
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Post by toad on Oct 10, 2007 19:58:59 GMT
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Post by mtl on Oct 14, 2007 20:23:29 GMT
Another option to get them into jazz are Charles M. Schulz's 'Peanuts'. My 5 year old boy loves the Peanuts movies and their music: there's hope!
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rowuk
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Post by rowuk on Oct 15, 2007 11:06:40 GMT
Start with Wynton Marsalis' video tapes on practicing and stuff. Even for kids that do not play instruments, it draws them in!
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Post by dc on Oct 15, 2007 14:39:21 GMT
Old cartoons had either classical music or jazz as the background. Not any more. ah yes, i miss looney tunes
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Post by bennyboy on Oct 19, 2007 23:05:37 GMT
When I was a kid, I could not get into it either! Jazz can appear to be too slow paced for kids. I also feel Jazz is much like beer, as its an acuired taste that can take time to develope.
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mrarroyo
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Post by mrarroyo on Oct 20, 2007 0:50:35 GMT
Benny, you are correct! Jazz is a "learned experience", but as you progress into it and understand it you find that a lot that passes for music is not.
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Post by leporello on Oct 21, 2007 23:21:37 GMT
I got into jazz when I was fifteen, so much so that I learned to "play" the cornet like Bix Beiderbeck. By the time I reached twenty I had learned to become a trumpet playing parrot in a dreadful dixieland band, having learned riffs and solos from treasured 78s and LPs bought in Charing Cross Road. By twenty two I discovered that my own efforts at playing jazz was an affront to even a halfwits musical sensibilities.
The point is that I think that jazz discovered me. My son is into Hip Hop and Gangsta "music" with all its assossiated fashion accessories and attitudes. He thinks jazz is crap and as he's much bigger than me now, I tend not to argue the point with him. I occasionally deliberately play jazz when he's around just to expose him to the experience.
Classical music discovered me later, completely by accident. I was taking shelter from a rain shower in a cathedral when someone happened to be practising on the organ. There I stood with a damp spliff in my pocket until the music bore me away to places I'd never dreamed existed. I fell in love with opera when I had an affair with a lovely woman who herself was an opera lover. A rather unusual sexually transmitted disease perhaps? But I'm not looking for a cure.
Actually, I don't really think that anyone can be taught to love any art form. For me it has always been a combination of discovery and context. Perhaps all one can do is to provide easy access to jazz and hope that one day the kids will find a context in which to discover it.
This week, I've mainly been listening a lot to the modern Jazz Quartet with Lionel Hampton playing old standards like The Surrey with the Fringe on Top, Moonlight in Vermont, Softly as the morning sunrise etc and my pleasure is in no way diminished by my son's indifference.
P.S. Wearing a baseball cap with the peak over my left ear did absolutely nothing to improve my street cred with my offspring, so on the whole, and based on my rather sad experience, I'd advise against this ploy in your quest to sophisticate your young.
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Post by charleyphogg on Oct 30, 2007 2:09:31 GMT
That video is great. Thank you.
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Post by charleyphogg on Oct 30, 2007 2:39:43 GMT
Jazz is in,or became most music, the same can be said of Blues and Classical and as much as I hate to admit it, even Country. Which all intermingle with and to become Rock. I never thought I'd hear the day that songs, music I loved would be elevator music. Not taking anything from classical, I like some classical, I just probably don't know enough about it. Here is some elevator christmas music for my future .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v7LzOeTkfM 1st edit for mispellings, 2nd edit I left out opera. This guys voice, the things he does...... Focus-Sylvia/HocusPocus
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Post by charleyphogg on Oct 30, 2007 3:04:37 GMT
Sorry to take it abit off topic. But I can't help asking if there is a more clear,concise guitar player, no matter who my guitar hero's are, then Jan Akkerman.
I blame Toad if I'm off topic, please do with my post that you must. Oh, I won't mention Thiss van Leer's operatica voice.
Sorry to butcher the terminology.
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rowuk
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Post by rowuk on Oct 30, 2007 10:15:08 GMT
My kids have always had a steady diet of "good" music. My preparation for classical or big band concerts were always loud enough that everybody was drawn in. In turn, my kids wanted me to listen to what interested them, which I did. We talked about the differences between music and entertainment and they developed a sense for "quality" even in their own listening habits. With that came tolerance and even appreciation for other "quality" music forms.
I believe that is the bottom line. If we involve our children in quality listening, we will reap the rewards of the appreciation of other art forms. The Internet Generation places a definite slant towards quantity and not quality. It is our job to help the kids sift through the garbage - wherever it may be! Let them listen to their music on your high-end amp and favorite choice of headphones. Many times, a good reproduction chain will draw attention to the good and bad alike. At least, you then have a common experience and something to share. Not bad when we consider how many parents have trouble finding something to talk about with their kids.............
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