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Post by rickcr42 on Dec 18, 2009 1:20:53 GMT
Exactly,because they ARE different !
imagine three voicings for every can you own.Time to get the sharpies out and label the bitches
No,that would be Beyer,Grado,AKG,Sennheiser and the various models therein.
THIS is confusion.
Guy #1 "so I hooked up my 681's to my xxx amp and..."
Guy #2 "which version ?"
Guy #1 "WTF are you taslking about ?"
Yup.Not me babe.As far asd I want to go is Hi-Z/Lo-Z versions of
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Post by matt7941 on Dec 19, 2009 17:05:12 GMT
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Post by dean0 on Dec 19, 2009 20:04:46 GMT
I have used this cable before, only problem I find is that the shield braid is very hard to strip, as its tightley wound, unlike mogami cable that uses a much looser braid, and peels of with ease.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 19, 2009 21:13:19 GMT
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Post by matt7941 on Dec 19, 2009 21:33:06 GMT
It looks very similar to the Vandamme. I got the stuff from Farnell's as it was available by the metre rather than being stuck with a large roll of the stuff and no use for it. They don't charge for postage either. To be honest, the Vandamme seems quite good: well shielded, decent purity copper and nicely flexible. I didn't find the braiding to much of a problem either, the tighter the better for increased shielding. It's quite a nice shade of blue to boot. Whether it makes much difference to the sound remains to be seen, but it does look the business with a nice chunky Neutrik 6.3mm plug! Matt
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 19, 2009 22:11:00 GMT
It looks very similar to the Vandamme. I got the stuff from Farnell's as it was available by the metre rather than being stuck with a large roll of the stuff and no use for it. They don't charge for postage either. To be honest, the Vandamme seems quite good: well shielded, decent purity copper and nicely flexible. I didn't find the braiding to much of a problem either, the tighter the better for increased shielding. It's quite a nice shade of blue to boot. Whether it makes much difference to the sound remains to be seen, but it does look the business with a nice chunky Neutrik 6.3mm plug! Matt Nothing at all wrong with the Van Damme Matt, bloody nice cable.... I prefer to buy by the reel though..... £1.31 per metre is fine if all you require is a few metres..... the Evolution stuff is the SAME as the Van Damme and a 20 metre reel comes in at £15.40 which works out at about 77 pence per metre and, let's be honest, fifteen smackers is pretty much a few pints of beer for 20 metres of cable ;D
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Post by rickcr42 on Dec 21, 2009 4:41:17 GMT
OK.Having owned or have had access to AKG K240's for a couple of decades I can comfortably say these may LOOK amazingly similiar to the AKGs (build quality up there but not studio ready ) the 681's are definately NOT an AKG clone in sonics but an entirely new beast that should be looked at for what they are-an amazing bargain in a fine set of headphones for the money
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Post by derekrumble on Dec 21, 2009 9:50:41 GMT
Well in 4 day's time my two little boys (aged 32 and 30) will be opening their presents only to find that their loving father has given them each a pair of very cheap Chinese headphones; apparently bought from a 'pound shop'. Hehehehe..
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Post by derekrumble on Dec 24, 2009 8:24:42 GMT
I am always amazed at how well the 681s work with lower-fi sources. They work very well with my new laptop with Win 7. Also sound good with the headphone out sockets of my SACD player, my Pure DAB receiver and an inexpensive own brand MP3 player. If anything, when driven by my X-CANv3 they sound a bit less involving - although still very very good. Why are lo-fi sources so well suited to these 'phones?
Regards,
Derek
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 29, 2009 22:20:10 GMT
I am always amazed at how well the 681s work with lower-fi sources. They work very well with my new laptop with Win 7. Also sound good with the headphone out sockets of my SACD player, my Pure DAB receiver and an inexpensive own brand MP3 player. If anything, when driven by my X-CANv3 they sound a bit less involving - although still very very good. Why are lo-fi sources so well suited to these 'phones? Regards, Derek X-Can V3 utilises 440uF output caps (two x 220uF in parallel) which is too small for low impedance 'phones..... if you replace these with 1 x 1000uF non polar cap (per channel) the HD-681 will sound a LOT better powered by the V3. A simplistic answer but, in my experience / to my ears.... 440uF is nowhere near enough for low Z 'phones..... the V2 had 220uF per channel, the V3 440uF per channel and, AT LAST, the V8 has 1000uF per channel....... any more than 1000uF is overkill IMO but anything less (if using low Z 'phones) is useless if you want to get the best out of your 'phones.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 29, 2009 22:38:47 GMT
Just received confirmation that the HD-662 and HD-668 are on their way I will report on both as soon as they arrive.
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Post by Will on Dec 29, 2009 22:53:45 GMT
The only review of the HD662 I can find is this one From a Chinese WebsiteSo the words make little sense. Nice piccies though, also showing a prototype. Do you know if you are getting a western world exclusive on these headphones, Mike?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 29, 2009 22:56:09 GMT
Do you know if you are getting a western world exclusive on these headphones, Mike? Yes, I am.
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Post by Will on Dec 29, 2009 23:04:41 GMT
Excellent. Looking forward to your impressions
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 29, 2009 23:25:33 GMT
Excellent. Looking forward to your impressions And yours.... I will be passing them around Rock Grotto members I'll break them in and will then pass them round the circuit
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2009 1:59:33 GMT
Oooh! Please Sir! Yes, me Sir. Can I join the list please, Sir?
Seriously, I'm dead interested in these, closed back jobbys. If Spain is not too distant I'd love to hear them.
Incidentally, I see there are 3 versions again. Do you know which ones are winging their way?
Chris
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Post by Will on Dec 30, 2009 9:06:01 GMT
Oooh! And me! I was all set to buy a pair of the 681's, but when I saw that some new 'phones were coming out, I decided to wait. Mind you, I'll be able to try the 681's out in the new year as well, as a work colleague has bought pair.
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Post by derekrumble on Dec 30, 2009 11:21:55 GMT
X-Can V3 utilises 440uF output caps (two x 220uF in parallel) which is too small for low impedance 'phones..... if you replace these with 1 x 1000uF non polar cap (per channel) the HD-681 will sound a LOT better powered by the V3. A simplistic answer but, in my experience / to my ears.... 440uF is nowhere near enough for low Z 'phones..... the V2 had 220uF per channel, the V3 440uF per channel and, AT LAST, the V8 has 1000uF per channel....... any more than 1000uF is overkill IMO but anything less (if using low Z 'phones) is useless if you want to get the best out of your 'phones. I think I am brave enough, and have just enough soldering skill, to do this. I did note the recommendation to change these output caps a long time back. Time to give it a whirl then? derek
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Post by apjaudio on Jan 3, 2010 23:31:21 GMT
These look great, I have been looking to buy a new set of phones for a while. Will definitely give these a try for the price, and before price goes up anymore.
Alan
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Post by apjaudio on Jan 3, 2010 23:39:32 GMT
Hi Mike, will be very interested in the closed back models, any idea on price for these?
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Post by derekrumble on Jan 8, 2010 20:49:14 GMT
Have just ordered two pairs from themusicking.co.uk - total inc delivery was £33. Christmas 'stocking fillers' for my two sons. They are pretty fussy about sound (although they DO use to MP3 too often for my liking); hope they appreciate what we are all on about. D. They like 'em - so my 20 quid 'phones ended up costing me 60 quid then. Worth it. D.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2010 21:27:25 GMT
Mike, these headphones could set a new trend for people buying into the types of sound that they prefer. I would imagine many people would like a 'lighter' Senn sound, an 'in your face' Senn sound etc., but at their prices this just isn't reasonable. Sennheiser have started to do this with their iem's but at a higher price than these Superlux headphones.
I really like the idea of headphones that are modelled to where you want to be in a hall aurally or matching them to the type of music that you're listening to.
At those prices, we could easily afford full sets and keep them for different genres so we're not so 'precious' about our expensive headphones and stuck with one type of sound.
Your mods are taking them even further into serious useability which makes them an amazing buy. The straight 681's are really good and the fact that they are easily modded too makes this whole series very attractive. Have you compared the canle modded pair to a straight pair? I wondering how much difference this cabling actually makes. Trouble is, if you've only got one, you're going from memory.
Rock Grotto could become a distributor!!!! (Along with X-Can mods for low impedance headphones .....)
Ian
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2010 22:01:59 GMT
Ian Careful, or we could end up like Head Fi ! Where far too many seem to be trying to make a quick quid. Alex
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2010 22:12:05 GMT
Ian Careful, or we could end up like Head Fi ! Where far too many seem to be trying to make a quick quid. Alex Help to run the site? No subscriptions? Actually, I'm more concerned about these headphones. They kick ass in comparison to what I have here and at £20 it's embarrassing!! The only issues I have with them is the plastic pads and the depth for your lugholes to fit into. The sound is top notch. The depth of the bass is astounding without pushing its nose into the rest of the sound and when you get heavy bass hits, there's no feeling of 'compression' that you can get with cheaper headphones. They just let rip. Have you heard them Alex? Ian
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2010 23:31:42 GMT
Hi Ian
Mike sent me a pair, and on suitable material they are quite exciting listening.(e.g. "Yello-Touch" etc.) However, for normal listening to Audiophile CDs and high resolution material, I much prefer my ATH W1000 headphones from my own design Class A HA.
Alex
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