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Post by Sol on Mar 6, 2014 9:54:35 GMT
I am trying to hold back the urge to buy a DJI phantom 2 with the Zenmuse H3-2D gimbal for a GoPro. I'm hoping that a mate will buy one in the US and bring it back with him for me. Definitely cheaper than buying in the UK.
I've use the GoPro for all sorts and enjoy video editing. This seems a natural additional element to play with.
Anyone any experience with the set up. There's loads of great footage on line and the reviews are very positive.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 6, 2014 20:49:49 GMT
I am trying to hold back the urge to buy a DJI phantom 2 with the Zenmuse H3-2D gimbal for a GoPro. I'm hoping that a mate will buy one in the US and bring it back with him for me. Definitely cheaper than buying in the UK. I've use the GoPro for all sorts and enjoy video editing. This seems a natural additional element to play with. Anyone any experience with the set up. There's loads of great footage on line and the reviews are very positive. Hi Simon, Good to see you back mate Before the flight experts can answer your query I have one "most important" question for you....... Have you flown a quadcopter? If the answer is "yes" then we can get down to the nitty gritty, as to whether or not the DJI Phantom has the payload to carry a GoPro, if the answer is no then I would STRONGLY recommend you learn to fly a very small "cheap" quadcopter before putting something worth over a grand into the air. Plenty of recommendations, either way, just need to know what the state of play is with regard to your flying skills. All the best, Mike.
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Post by jc on Mar 7, 2014 17:46:06 GMT
That looks like a lot fun and a beastie of a machine. If, as Mike says above, you're an old hand, then we'd love to see some on board footage once you get that far.
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Post by Sol on Mar 7, 2014 17:47:19 GMT
No not flown one Pink! But I hear they are easy. I have flown other RC stuff with mixed success. As for payload they are designed to fly with the go pro. So can handle the weight no probs.
The write ups as very good. I'm a terminal gadget freak - I need help before I buy!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 7, 2014 20:42:06 GMT
No not flown one Pink! But I hear they are easy. I have flown other RC stuff with mixed success. As for payload they are designed to fly with the go pro. So can handle the weight no probs. The write ups as very good. I'm a terminal gadget freak - I need help before I buy! NO NO NO NO! They are NOT (I repeat NOT) "easy" to fly and will take you a good few months to be able to fly them without smacking into a tree / cliff or wall when you lose orientation. Don't even THINK about a DJI Phantom, and certainly don't think about flying one with a Go Pro attached, until you have mastered the flight characteristics / handling of a quadcopter..... they are totally different from a helicopter and take quite a bit of practice (and lots of crashes) to perfect. I started off with the Hubsan X4 nanocopter and that is a great little bird to train with.... it will take plenty of knocks, regain consciousness, and be up in the air again no complaints. Fire a DJI with Go Pro into the air (without any experience) and you are essentially spending a LOT of money to watch your "money" going WHAMMO! into the ground at full speed. I'm trying to get my friend Sam to respond to your post.... he and I have been doing this for ages (crashing / not crashing / sometimes crashing) but mostly looking at the payload capacity of said quad / octo copter. I, personally, don't think the DJI Phantom has enough grunt to sport a Go Pro payload....... I'll badger Sam and hopefully he will respond with a more technical type response. Mike.
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Post by windmill9 on Mar 8, 2014 20:48:13 GMT
Go for it!
The reason you need to buy it, is because it is crap. But crap in a good way.
1. It is relatively cheap to buy.
2. You can get spares for it; and the spares will be available for quite some time - quite a few have been sold.
3. It can lift a go-pro; but the payload is near to its maximum. But it can fly for a good 10 mins depending on your battery.
4. It is only a four rotor - if your lose a motor in flight (burn-out) it will crash. Sixes and eights have built in redundancy.
5. It is small and looks like a toy - if you crash it on some ones greenhouse, they will not expect you to have £240000 of insurance!
6. It is small and looks like a toy - it will fit in your car, and you will be amazed at how often you fly it! Golf course, oil rig terminal, gay music festival!
7. It is small and looks like a toy - your partner will not know how much you spent on it. You will not need a separation or a divorce!
8. Do you have a I-pod pad apple thingy? It is possible with the correct app to programme an autonomous flight path into the machine. It will take off and follow way points you have entered, leaving you to concentrate on the pictures you want to take. This function is fantastic, when you have the hang of it.
9. It can be flown in a 'home lock' mode. You can have the copter a 'spec in the sky', but pull the stick towards you and it will return over head. Great!!! You do not need to be a model helicopter genius to fly these things, just a bit of common sense!
10. It cannot handle high winds - it gets blown away. This is handy - it gives you an excuse to buy a big one!
11. Being small, you can fly it in urban areas without the hassle that big multi copters create.
12. The video it takes can be quite bumpy, it is only a 'four' after all. This is a fantastic opportunity to practise cleaning up the video on your computer - it can be smoothed out digitally. The skill you build up now will pay big dividends in the future, when you shoot video in hairy situations, but need a polished product at the end of the process.
Happy to have feed back on this, every body. No need to be polite!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 8, 2014 21:25:23 GMT
That was Sam by the way ^^^^^^^^^^^^
I TOTALLY agree with him Simon, on all of the points he makes.
The ad man prints a crock of bull and people throw a lot of money into the air (IF they can actually get the damned thing into the air without firstly self destructing on the ground).... the DJI is a nice quad but seriously stressed with a Go Pro payload. You really don't want to be flinging > £1000 skyward because the likelihood is that it will crash into a tree OR (more embarrassingly) self destruct on your lawn / tarmacadam "flood unfriendly" parking area.
Now that Sam has posted his thoughts on the DJI Phantom / Go Pro combo I trust he will follow up with some good solid advice for you.
My advice is the same as originally posted..... there is no such thing as a free lunch and there is no such thing as a quadcopter that flies itself, an element of skill is required (for both!)..... I still maintain that you should first get to grips with a quadcopter that is cheap and "bounceable" (ie: it will take a smacks without damage) and that would be the Hubsan X4.......... as soon as you can master that then start looking toward a bigger quad / octo copter.
I have the bumblebee quad and, sure as hell, am not confident in flying it further than about 100 yards away from me.... the thought of "adding" an expensive camera and decking the entire rig into a tree is not something I have considered...... I'll have to be 101% confident in my flying skills, and the bird I'm flying, before I even contemplate flying it with an additional payload.
Anyhoo...... you pays your money you takes your choice.....
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Post by Sol on Mar 18, 2014 19:09:24 GMT
Really really good advice ... I shall look to play some more ... bumble bee does look good .
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 18, 2014 21:37:38 GMT
Really really good advice ... I shall look to play some more ... bumble bee does look good . Hi Sol. NO..... the Bumblebee would be crap with a Go Pro. It's already "almost" on it's payload capacity with a battery fitted! You really do need to research this further and the best place to do that would be a helicopter forum or have a word with a "non" salesman like expert. Mike.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 18, 2014 21:48:21 GMT
By the way... Sam "is" that expert but he prefers to act like an eccentric "Boris Johnston" like buffoon, rather than give good practical advice, these days....
Sorry that he didn't deliver a good, practical, useful "to the point" answer Simon.
I think he has been brainwashed by the SNP party into answering questions with vague scenarios and boiled fish finger recipes.
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