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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 24, 2006 19:08:02 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 24, 2006 19:33:22 GMT
Was only a matter of time Rick.. it'll be on Head-Fi next as a "special edition" selling like hot cakes. All they have to do is call it the "Head-Lunch" and assign it "limited edition" (oh, not forgeting the important "serial numbers") and it'll be flying off the shelves like there's no tomorrow... just look at the Meier "Head-Five" You should make an amp and call it the "Rick-Head", limited edition of 500, personally sign each one and they'll flock like locusts to buy it ;D
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 24, 2006 20:10:13 GMT
To be honest Mike I really thought you were headed to possibly being an agent for this amp in the UK at least.Maybe I misread your intent. becuase it has Eddy Current association and the catch phrase of Class-A on the panel even though many so labelled amps are anything but will gain a following I'm sure.Until it is reverse enghineered then sold as a kit anyway Actually I more would expect intentional bad reviews and a total open war against any amp that would bear my name.I have been no shrinking violet and have made more than my share of enemies though like most punks those same would likely kiss my ass to my face then stick a knife in my back when it was turned or carry lies (has been done on a large scale) in a campaign to crap on the product. Nope.I am not that fkn dumb dude
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 24, 2006 20:22:06 GMT
No, I haven't even heard the amp so certainly wouldn't want to be an agent for it without even hearing it first. The "Heed" amp, now that's a different kettle of fish, the guy still hasn't got back to me.... was looking very promising there for a while...... I'll send him a nudge
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 24, 2006 20:37:45 GMT
you better move quickly on that before that also shows up as a rebranded amp from someone watching from the sidelines but with more capital to get things moving in their favor
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jun 24, 2006 21:49:59 GMT
Fanboys have already been alerted
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 24, 2006 22:15:04 GMT
Dammit Mike i said SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOSHI !I'll tell you though,it matters not.I have seen sooo many examples of identical amps where amp "A" is considered a real POS,not hidden gem,not sleeper,but flawed,then on of the annointed offers it and it suddenly transcends all that has gone before and into must have classification. what changed ? name on the panel or who is shipping it is all and no more and why I have a hard time taking the headphone community seriously any more.Every month the new thing then it too is in the for sale forum so they can buy the next new thing. even better is all the products that were scrapped because they had no market until everyone realises they can no longer have one then everyone suddenly wants the item ! If they maube showed that much support when the line was up maybe they would not have to bith and whine for the product to be reinstated but then that would be too easy Sad dude,truly sad. I swear if any of my sons ever become followers I will personally take them out then hide the bodies in a deep hole somewhere ;D
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 24, 2006 22:17:09 GMT
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Post by FritzS on Jun 26, 2006 8:12:52 GMT
Hi, it's an achievement of "the new world"! The most of the so-called "audiophile high end" products are made in china ...... such as Sony, KEF, etc. - I think there is non of the big manufacturer he did not make this!
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 26, 2006 19:15:59 GMT
yeah,civilised countries outsource all middle class work then bring in foreign labor to become no better than slaves to wait on the wealthy hand and foot (baby sitters,house keepers,drivers,slaves) or work in the service industries such as the resturant business,fast food,office cleaning. Once they have those areas locked up have a second wave move in to snap up all the remaining middle class jobs in the skilled labor areas.This also no constest because at least in my country shady employers will no longer have to pay the "hidden extras" so two workers head to head,one legal,one illegal,both making $25 per hour which in reality is the illegal making that $25 per while the legal citizen is also receiving Workmans comp in case he gets hurt,unemployment insurance in case he loses his job,certain holidays paid for,vacation time,taxes,etc. That $25/$25 is now $25/$55 which is no cntest in favor of the illegal worker who is in effect slave labor under constant threat of deportation if they do not DO AS YOU ARE TOLD which is causing a wider breech between the haves and the have nots in my country since the 19th century.Fully intentional to re-instate a ruling class in my country is my thought because at the same time we are grasduating functional illiterates from scholls of higher learning so again "papered aristocrats" who are idiots telling everyone else what to do,the slave/peasant class,just because they are who they are and not by the content of their head as in brains.why else graduate idiots where once if you did not learn you did not advance ? So what does this have to do with offshore cheap amps and manufacturers ? The only way they compete head to head is to play the same game.The options are 1-build offshore and keep the price competitive 2-play it straight,hire local workers,actually tout the fact that everything is "home grown" then go out of business a year later when you can't make enough to pay the bills 3-keep it small aimed at a very specific targeted market where name recognition and build quality have some meaning or the new model 4-build up that rep then buy offshore goods and relabel them while the unsuspecting think they are getting something extra for the premium price added on top of actual cost for no more than the "name" on the panel. I always admired the MOTH products and the early Eddy Current amps but obviously Craig could not make a go of it hand building one amp at a time or he still would be so instead he just rebrands the work of others and sells at a marked up but still low price.a price no one not the original offshore manufacturer or ANY local competition can touch ! I understand it but I don't have to like it and would rather pay the amp builder directly than pay someone else for the priveledge of having their nma eon the front panel as some kind of staus symbol that some need to have so they can be accepted by their peers
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Post by eddie on Jun 26, 2006 21:30:39 GMT
Howdy First, Ahmed the owner of Laconic in Russia is a friend of mine. The Eddie Current EC-01 is collaboration between Laconic and me. It is a modified HA-03M with upgraded heater supply in a more user safe chassis. There has never been any effort to hide the fact it is a Russian made product. The Lunch Box which I named because it looks like one has not been modified for me and is being offered as a less expensive alternative to American made tube amplifiers. You can buy these amps straight from Laconic. I thought I was doing the community a service by importing, testing and warrantee for a virtual unknown product. Eddie Current will debut two new American designed and manufactured amps at the So Cal meet this August. I am a member now; feel free to ask me questions concerning my products. Even old gear, Moth, Kinergetics, JBL, I will help out in anyway I can. Craig Uthus.
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 26, 2006 23:29:52 GMT
Hey Craig,good to hear from the "horses mouth" on these things. The above statements made by me personally are observations on the state of upscale consumer audio in general with this particular amp just being the most recent example of what seems to me a trend. A trend many have a problem with (offshore building then local selling.something bitched about often in audio forums) while those same persons are also the ones who look to price as the main point for consideration.In effect-they want it both ways and if someone is able to turn a profit of not matters little as long as the "I Wants" get their way. To be honest I don't see how any smaller operater can make a profit high enough to give up the day job,hand build one at a time "in house" and keep prices competitive without cutting so many corners the "mod squad" forum feeders would have a field day first ripping the product for the very shortcuts made to keep prices low then showing how it can be "improved" without ever realising the original could have been that but would have sat in the box on a shelf if at the accumulative retail price of the amp and mods combined.At least that is how I see it............. these types don't mind spending $400 on a $300 amp ($700 total) but would not purchase the same amp done right for $550 because some other knucklhead has a competing product,flaws and all,for the same $400. That this is/was a collaboration is news to me so my comments maybe off base.If you felt insulted in any way I apologise willingly and openly though was not my intent and why I tried mightily to walk the fine line between product crapping and saying what I thought openly. The amp IS cool in an offbeat way yeah it maybe looks like a lunchbox to some though i would like to meet the human that actually uses such a lunchbox these days mine looks like this but my MAILBOX looks like this anyway.Always good to have actual knowledge than assumptions and it ISA good to see you post here even though likely because someone pointed you to a thread that maybe looked like an attack thread. eityher way welcome on board Craig,don't be a stranger to our little hidy corner of the net .
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 27, 2006 20:40:04 GMT
BTW-taking a wild guess here on the topology I'm thinking one dual triode for gain to White Cathode Follower output stage (6N1P or ECC99 x3 ?) running in the 200-220 VDC B+ range,AC Heaters,solid state recitifiers and cap coupled for a good match into 160-300 ohm cans but not lower Z cans such as Grados without either a matching trafos or active untity gain hugh current buffer to keep down the coupling cap size
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Post by valeri on Jun 28, 2006 4:23:08 GMT
I shall inform, what information is. Lamps 6N3P-EV, and two pieces 6N24P. On a site www.audiokits.ru it is specified, that power approximately 60-80 mW, target resistance 32 ohm.
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Post by rickcr42 on Jun 28, 2006 14:53:45 GMT
That is helpful (and would have been my third choice ). I knew the tubes would be of Russian origin then considering the retail price not anything exotic or expensive which precluded 6H30's,that the front end gain meant a medium to high Mu dual triode and the low output Z a follower stage of some kind using low Mu or medium Mu triodes so took a stab at it anyway not having any real info to go on Obviously there is no room in the chassis for either an output transformer or tube rectification so likely at least on those parts I got it right (cap coupled.solid state rectification)
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Post by valeri on Jun 28, 2006 18:52:25 GMT
I not so well understand lamp circuitry, but I can tell, that amplifier HA-02T very much is pleasant to me. Transistor HA-05T my wife listens on work and I do not know as it sounds. The difference between direct inclusion and inclusion through the amplifier is very appreciable.
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