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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 3, 2013 15:14:57 GMT
Aha! Postman has just delivered them Also your ipod and 100 Russian valves Ian... I'll crack them open after dinner, they come in very nice packaging and certainly "appear" to be excellent for £14.99.... leather pads too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 16:29:11 GMT
The PO is unbelievable. When you think how far apart we are and that Ipod got there SO fast. I only posted it yesterday lunchtime and it's found you already. Let's hope that battery actually fits inside!!
Not the valves I looked at? Hopefully a consistent box? I can't believe the cavalier way that some of these sellers operate. They don''t seem at all bothered about what they're selling at all or about retaining customers.
The Marleys really aren't too shabby. Perfect straight out of the Ipod with no amp. Easily driven and a good weighty sound. I must admit, hearing these has me wondering about the ones further up the range and some rather tasty looking earbuds made in wood. I'm not sure if the the higher priced ones have been released yet but judging by these, there could be some mileage out of them. Treble is a little recessed but you can play them pretty loud with no pain!!
Warm and full bodied sounding. I'd say probably better than my Fanny Wangs actually, at about a third of the price. I much prefer their presentation to the Senn PX200 which seems thin and mean sounding by comparison. Better isolation too.
Good for slinging in the bag and taking off with you or out on a beach......
I can see them matching well with Dub or Reggae stuff with the bass response.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 3, 2013 17:27:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 19:04:23 GMT
I looked up the iem's and they all seem to follow the same traits as far as bass is concerned; ie quite heavy. (Much like these ones) There are quite a lot of them too.
It also seems the Marley family are behind them and they run that internet site which takes a cut. (ILove)
They do have a suck out somewhere in the middle or middle/top. I'll have to compare them with my Fanny Wangs!!
OK ... just had a quick comparison. The Marleys have more bass weight and do seem slightly more open then the Wangs. Mr Love Pants really kicks ass in the bass on these.
For me, a bit more presence in the mids wouldn't come amiss but they are a really entertaining listen!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 3, 2013 19:52:27 GMT
They are FANTASTIC Ian and why I am so down on these bloody useless couriers.... a courier will take THREE days to get up here AND they will impose a surcharge..... Royal Mail will get here in under 24 hours "guaranteed" for the normal price. Couriers are just a bunch of crooks. I PRAY they never privatise the Royal Mail.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 3, 2013 20:16:44 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 3, 2013 20:57:23 GMT
They're not too bad and actually quite good! For £14.99 I'd consider them a bit of a bargain. I've had them on loop for a few hours out of the Aune T1 Dac / amp and they have opened up a bit. Very warm presentation, but that could be due in part to being paired with the Aune T1 which is inherently "warmish" itself. Nice extended bass, slightly plummy "rounded" mids and could do with a bit more tizz at the top end. A nice mellifluous, easy going, tone though..... these should be quite nice for long, relaxed listening sessions. Having said that, I'm not sure they would pass the comfort test for long head-time sessions.... they're pretty cool on the ears, thanks to the leather pads but they are quite annoying on my ears after a while (20 mins).... of course, they may well soften and bed in with time. Just plugged them into my iphone 4GS (apple lossless files), listening to Yello's "La Habanera" from the One Second album..... less laid back, more midrange energy and a bit more fizz from the top end.... yup, just as I'd suspected, the T1 was not the ideal source for these.... hey, these are pretty damned decent! Not the expansive soundstage I'm used to BUT these are closed 'phones with my phone as source.... erm, they're bloody GOOD.... a most definite "in head" soundstage, but, nonetheless a very enjoyable soundstage.... you can almost pick the grapes from the midrange vine here.... lovely and ripe. The low end is moist and the roots go downward into the soil with ease.... I can't believe A: that I'm using a "phone" as source" and B: that it sounds so damned good..... £14.99 shipped? Worth every penny!!!! The cloth covered cable is totally silent in operation, the "quality" of the entire package has to rate 9/10 (of anyone's money) and the bang for the buck score has to be 11/10. I believe the seller has doubled the price..... IMO they are STILL worth every penny.... These certainly do give the PX200 / Portapros a good run for their money and (IMO) are not far off a Senn HD 25/1 in tonal similarity. Very nice
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 3, 2013 21:13:19 GMT
I like these so much I'm going to take them to bits and take photos.... these have seriously GOOD potential Watch this space.......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 22:23:32 GMT
I like these so much I'm going to take them to bits and take photos.... these have seriously GOOD potential Watch this space....... Already? They're better than Fanny's Wang and have some serious bass thwack. Actually, they're fine straight out of an Ipod as well. I think with that FR, they're more geared for mp3/compressed files since they won't reveal the nasties up top. That along with their high sensitivity makes them look really well designed for portable audio to me. If the headband is stretched, they may become easier on the ears, lose some of the bass and so seem more toppy. I'll try pulling them off my ears a bit. Not too bad on mine although I can see that they could hurt some people after a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 14:38:39 GMT
A visit to HMV today and another pressie - they gave me a pair of 'Positive Vibrations' to try. (They like me .....) Mike, these are quite an improvement on the Soul Rebels. These ones are called 'Positive Vibrations' and are similar in construction in that they go on to the ears. The bass hits as hard as the Rebels, but the treble is more extended so they sound a little more open than the Rebels. The mids are also a little more present. Possibly the same driver in there with a different housing and the cord just goes up one side. www.amazon.co.uk/House-Marley-Positive-Vibrations-Headphones/dp/B005FO2DII/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357309194&sr=8-1Sometimes for ear pain, shifting the headphone cups forward can help, Mike. So the front half is actually pushing on the top side of the cheeks takes the pressure away from the flaps of your ears. With some, I find moving them BACK so the flaps of your ears go inside (like I do with Sony V6) but these cups aren't big enough for that. There's a slight improvement from the Neco amp as well. The bass seems a tad less wallowy and the general 'clarity' seems improved. They're more balanced. You know what, Mike - they remind me of those orthos that you made!!
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Post by toad on Jan 4, 2013 15:33:36 GMT
So... Are you going to wear these out and about when you go to the shops
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 16:13:00 GMT
So... Are you going to wear these out and about when you go to the shops ;D As long as I have some makeup and a large woolly hat. The people in HMV thought that it was funny too. They know me quite well and asked if I was changing style. The 'Positive Vibration' is a real improvement on the Fanny Wangs that I have actually and are half the price, I think. What I really like about these cheap headphones is if you find one that suits you tonally, they're somehow really well suited to Ipods without amps. (although they work better with the Neco tbh) They're very sensitive and so go loud easily but the sound is often unbelievably robust in the bass. Where the Ipods can sound a little underpowered and thin, these things put the guts back. It's a very different experience to full sized home headphones with a proper amp driving them. These things are working on minimal power and seem to do a very good job considering the source. Mike spotted it as soon as he connected to his phone. They somehow make these devices sound way more potent. The biggest problem with them is the treble or lack of. Many are quite curtailed up top; probably to hide any mp3 gremlins. The 'Rebels' mask more than the 'Positive Vibrations' and even the Vibrations could be boosted more up top and still be fine. I think with me and headphones, it's more a matching thing than an individual component and at each level, it is possible to get a reasonable return for your money in terms of sheer musicality. Despite the daft names, the 'Positive Vibrations' is a really entertaining listen on rock stuff in particular. You get such a fast 'thwack' in the bass that is sometimes difficult to get on full sized headphones!! They're not the most revealing of headphones but they are really well suited to the purpose that they're designed for, which is something that purist hi fiers sometimes don't tie in with - the fact that headphones are designed for different applications. We tend to treat them all the same and pick the most revealing as the best. The DT1350 is a prime example of a headphone that is very hi fi but not really suited to use on an Ipod type device. It needs a higher volume and shows up MP3 for what it is rather than make the best of it. To use the 1350, really, it needs an amp and a high bit rate or wav. Slight overkill for most people. For me, the best is the one best suited for the job. It definitely beats the AKG K601 straight out of an Ipod!! ;D
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 4, 2013 21:21:33 GMT
You sure that wan't Ann Summers you visited? Positive vibrations? Sounds like some kind of G spot stimulator (or "P" spot if you're into that type of thing ) You're talking a WHOPPING amount of money for those Ian (unless you get them free) and I'm not sure I can afford to live the jetset lifestyle sporting a pair of "positive vibrations"..... I'm a simples man and £14.99 is my budget baby! I can only dream of a pair of positive vibes.... maybe autumn, when my crops are harvested, I'll be in a position to afford a pair of positive vibes but, as it stands, I'm pretty much tied into the "soul rebel midnight's" for a year. There was me, all happy, and you just had to spoil the party with your "positive vibrations"..... I now feel inferior, I feel cheated, I feel that I have been raped out of £14.99 Why did you have to go there? why did you have to let me see what life is like on the other side? I now hunger for a pair of positive vibrations, I have an urge to rape and pillage (and burn down many villages) to secure a pair.... They look so COOL, I want to wear them on my head and be the king of cool... people will respeK me, people will aspire to "be" me, people will crawl on their knees before me and exclaim "JAH Rastafari Positive Vibe AYE!"..... You bastard! how I envy you
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 21:48:17 GMT
Ya man. Reeeespek. They gave them to me. I think retail is about £40 so about the same price as the Noontech Zoro. Funnily enough, not particularly neutral, but then again, neither are the Zoros but these are way more entertaining. The funny thing is, with all of that bass and the slam that goes on with them, they don't go boomy with mens' voices on podcasts so I reckon they have really been designed to work with Ipods. D'ya want one?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 4, 2013 21:59:08 GMT
Nooooooooooo!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 4, 2013 22:25:16 GMT
Next we know people will be using rubber bands instead of volume knobs and paper bags for headphones... the entire joint could go Russian in the blink of an eye
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 4, 2013 22:27:10 GMT
Nooooooooooo! ;D Jah 'as to relax man. Taint good fer de 'ealth ta be so 'ung up on da spondoolix, man. Me gettin' da vibes from da Vibrations. Now where dat sherriff man fer a shootin'? I goin' ta shoot da sheriff. Jes a bitta fun!! Your impression of a Welsh man was superb!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 22:34:50 GMT
Next we know people will be using rubber bands instead of volume knobs and paper bags for headphones... the entire joint could go Russian in the blink of an eye Nice idea. A quick pull on a piece of rubber and the volume increases. I think we're onto something here. It's nice to know what the punters listen on ..... How the hell do we get a mix that sounds good on such a wide variation of sound? From paper bags to orthos or whatever?
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Post by ronzo56 on Jan 4, 2013 23:35:07 GMT
They're not too bad and actually quite good! For £14.99 I'd consider them a bit of a bargain. Mike, you got a crazy, insanely good price. I just checked Amazon over here and they want $70 (£43)! Nice deal. I wonder what they go for in Bulgaria?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 0:14:49 GMT
Ah waitin da release o' da "Jump Nyabinghi" to gets me agony, bad like yaz batty boy!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 5, 2013 12:05:31 GMT
Ah waitin da release o' da "Jump Nyabinghi" to gets me agony, bad like yaz batty boy! Have you been drinking Chris?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 5, 2013 22:34:00 GMT
They're not too bad and actually quite good! For £14.99 I'd consider them a bit of a bargain. Mike, you got a crazy, insanely good price. I just checked Amazon over here and they want $70 (£43)! Nice deal. I wonder what they go for in Bulgaria? Hi Ron, The more I listen the more I agree with Ian..... these 'phones are "tuned" to work best with MP3 players (for want of a better word)..... ie: will go to a pretty high dB level out of the head out of these Euro "restricted" devices... will do a good job of turning a sow's ear into a silk purse, a definite improvement over the "stock" headphones that come with most of these devices. I've been listening for a few days now and my comparison to the Senn HD- 25/1 was a bit premature The "initial" listen is favourable but once you are exposed to more prolonged listening the cracks soon start to appear...... I love them for short term listening (a couple of minutes) but any more than that and I feel like my head is trapped inside inside a padded baked bean can and I want to rip them off my head.... the presentation is VERY "in head" and never extends beyond the skull..... After a lot of reflection / listening that £14.99 may not be the bargain I thought it was..... if you asked me what I preferred between a pair of Koss Portapro and a pair of these my answer would be Portapro EVERY time..... the Portapro can be had for as little as £9.99 (If you shop around) so the £14.99 paid for the "Marley" headphones may have been a few quid too much. Mike.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 23:01:19 GMT
Have you been drinking Chris? I wish! The various police forces ( yes they ARE forces here ) have been very diligent with their Christmas fund-raiser, erm, anti-drink-driving campaigne. In ten years I have never been breathalised, in December gone I was stopped 3 times for testing. Amazingly the percentage of positive results has gone up this year!
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Post by ronzo56 on Jan 6, 2013 2:05:30 GMT
Mike, you got a crazy, insanely good price. I just checked Amazon over here and they want $70 (£43)! Nice deal. I wonder what they go for in Bulgaria? Hi Ron, The more I listen the more I agree with Ian..... these 'phones are "tuned" to work best with MP3 players (for want of a better word)..... ie: will go to a pretty high dB level out of the head out of these Euro "restricted" devices... will do a good job of turning a sow's ear into a silk purse, a definite improvement over the "stock" headphones that come with most of these devices. I've been listening for a few days now and my comparison to the Senn HD- 25/1 was a bit premature The "initial" listen is favourable but once you are exposed to more prolonged listening the cracks soon start to appear...... I love them for short term listening (a couple of minutes) but any more than that and I feel like my head is trapped inside inside a padded baked bean can and I want to rip them off my head.... the presentation is VERY "in head" and never extends beyond the skull..... After a lot of reflection / listening that £14.99 may not be the bargain I thought it was..... if you asked me what I preferred between a pair of Koss Portapro and a pair of these my answer would be Portapro EVERY time..... the Portapro can be had for as little as £9.99 (If you shop around) so the £14.99 paid for the "Marley" headphones may have been a few quid too much. Mike. Guess I won't be going for them at £43 then; and they have more expensive models too. I'm guessing we are going to see more of this for a while. Cans are in with the youth and the ear buds are losing market share. [glow=red,2,300]"I feel like my head is trapped inside inside a padded baked bean can". [/glow] That's just how I felt one New Years Eve many years ago. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 8:38:41 GMT
To be fair, the next model up is an improvement and they cost the same as the Noontech Zoro. The Zoro is also aimed at the same market - Ipods.
Yesterday, I tried going between the more expensive Marleys and Sony V6. The Sonys are more revealing but you don' t need that for low bit rate mp3 or podcasts. I'm convinced that the Marleys are tuned for the target market. They work better on low bit rate coming from a low power device.
I first noticed this with the Fanny Wangs. They do the same but the more expensive Marleys are better.
It' s not hi fi, but neither is low bit rate mp3. However, the Marleys improve on the Sonys which are a ' better' headphone.
It' s a headphone designed for quick impressive listening, that smooths out the imperfections of low quality files. Kids don' t tend to listen for too long but downloads are what they listen to.
In this respect, the Vibrations does a really good job. On the end of an X Can V8, they' re crap.
Now turn it round. The K601 on the Ipod is really crap. The K601 on aV8 is great.
We don' t always bear in mind what headphones are designed for. A good studio headphone can sound awful in a home set up as well.
Last night, I was listening to Planet Rock on a portable, very low power DAB. No amp. Wandering around. The Marleys worked really well used this way.
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