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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 14:22:24 GMT
<clip> I think we tend to tune headphones to our ears via the bass though so we put them in the position where the bass is maximum. I would love to pull my D2000 apart and recable them with Cardas myself, dampen the back down (and tighten the cups while I'm at it), but I'm too much of a chicken and would probably destroy them. Hi, Ian If you are not absolutely sure that the Cardas cable will change the D2000 to your liking, if I were you, may I suggest that you do the physical dampening first because it would be much easier to reverse. I hate to see you recable one of your favorite headphones, and if they do not turn out as you expected, then feel stuck with the recabled ones, which at that point would be hard-wired, and harder to revert to their former state. I would feel very bad if this happens, and that it would have happened because of my experience, which you may have taken as example. Every time I recable a new set of cans that require hard-wiring, I take a chance, and risk irreversibly damaging them, but I know that I only have myself to blame if something goes wrong, and am on my own! Needless to say that if after recabling you like the change and improvement, then I would be very happy. But, I don't want to feel responsible if the reverse turns out to be true. What impressed me with the D2000 before recabling was that the bass tended to be a little boomy. One of the first things I noticed after recabling with the Cardas, among others, was that the bass, to my taste, was tightened just the right amount, and I didn't feel the need to dampen it further for fear of losing some of it. As Alex suggested, Mike would be the person who can do this for you, but if I were you, I would make one change at the time. This way it will be easier to track cause and effect. Please take the above said as friendly suggestions, coming from a place of care, and not wanting to see you get hurt. Of course, I know that you are a person who makes his own decisions, and I don't want to influence you one way or another. Al the Best! Israel Sent from my iPad Hi Israel, With the Denon in particular, the cable is a nuisance. It's so tangly but a little bass dampening wouldn't hurt imo. You are right; it is my favourite headphone as well. Don't worry, I wouldn't do anything drastic and I really don't take offence at suggestions!! I don't like being so ham fisted is more like it. It's terrible. When I have to repair a heli, for me it's such a fiddly job with all the tiny parts and my bad eyesight!!! I burned my finger with a soldering iron and din't find out until I could actually smell burning. I have no feeling in one finger..... That's why I'm so damned helpless sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 16:14:02 GMT
Hi Israel, With the Denon in particular, the cable is a nuisance. It's so tangly but a little bass dampening wouldn't hurt imo. You are right; it is my favourite headphone as well. Don't worry, I wouldn't do anything drastic and I really don't take offence at suggestions!! I don't like being so ham fisted is more like it. It's terrible. When I have to repair a heli, for me it's such a fiddly job with all the tiny parts and my bad eyesight!!! I burned my finger with a soldering iron and din't find out until I could actually smell burning. I have no feeling in one finger..... That's why I'm so damned helpless sometimes. Hi, Ian Not to get too far off-topic, but my D2000 are also my favorites right now, and I don't know, and wonder if there is anything out there that can top them as far as I am concerned. I have you to thank for this, for were it not for your posts about them, I would never had purchased them! As recabled with the Cardas they sound fantastic, and never cease to amaze me as to how musical they are! For an upgrade I was thinking of the D5000 or the D7000, but from what I have been reading on the internet -- reviews by people whose ears I more or less trust, either of these two are a little rolled off at the top as compared to the D2000, and purportedly sound a bit laid back. I have the Senns HD650, which are laid back, and don't feel inclined to go in that direction (though after having recabled those with the Cardas, they sound less so). I then decided to go in a different direction, and go into the orthophonic type of headphones that are so highly touted, and from what I have been reading, the HE-500 seems to be the one for me. Frans tells me that after I listen to them, I will want to get rid of every other headphone I have, but in my recent exchange of posts with Miguel, while raving about his HE-500, fortunately, he still loves his D2000, and they are among his favorites even now. So, this sounds encouraging! I don't think I will ever part with the D2000, and I even told my wife, that after I leave this earth, she should never give them away to anyone! Sorry for going a bit off-topic, but in my comments I did mention recabling, so I may have not strayed too far. Well, to get back to the subject of cables, if and when you have Mike (or perhaps someone else) do the recabling for your D2000, if you want to make that cable completely non-microphonic, have him sleeve it - the main and the Y part of it in Multi-Filament Nylon Sleeving. It is completely silent, no matter how much it is knocked or rubbed. This sleeving is available in a choice of sizes and colors at electronic supply houses, as well as on eBay, but be sure that it is Multi-Filament type nylon, and not simple Techflex, which is very microphonic and noisy! I am sure Mike is familiar with this, and he may even have some of the Multi-Filament type in stock. Also, a good supplier for the Cardas cable in bulk is moon-audio.com and his prices are the most reasonable I have found so far for both bulk cable and if you so choose, the Gold Cardas Rhodium-Plated 6.3mm Stereo plug, which I always use in my recablings. Since he is located in the US however, shipping to UK may increase the cost to a point where it might be better for you or Mike to pick up the supplies locally. Cheers! Israel Sent from my iPad
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 17:00:17 GMT
After having the D2000, I am also quite keen to hear a D5000 as well Israel. I have been thinking about where to go from now and I know that Frans is keen on the orthos. However, I'm still curious about going further up the Denon ladder since the 2000 is so musical a headphone. On a quick listen, it is close to the Beyer DT990 which comparatively sounds more open but for me, the D2000's musicality has it and it plays louder without that treble of the DT990 grating and turning harsh. As you say, the answer to the D2000 bass and put a little more 'zing' in there could be a cable. I don't know because I've never really gone much into cables before other than playing around with the Sennheisers and a cable that cost me dearly. All I can say was I was very unimpressed. However, it could have been the cable - who knows? I'm open to playing around; especially after what the Sennheiser developer said. However, if I did go down that route - then expectation bias would come into play etc and we're back into the circles of old. My primary reason would be because the standard cable is a pain but if it helped the sound too, then I'd be a happy bunny!! The price of the D5000 over here is quite high and I'm not sure it's actually available now. I think it's the 5001 and 7001 now. What I love with them is the bass attack - nothing else much gets near that!!! Timps are absolutely brilliant with them. Very big speaker-like sound. Well, if I got you curious about the D2000, now you have me curious about the cable!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 20:38:12 GMT
After having the D2000, I am also quite keen to hear a D5000 as well Israel. I have been thinking about where to go from now and I know that Frans is keen on the orthos. However, I'm still curious about going further up the Denon ladder since the 2000 is so musical a headphone. <snip> The price of the D5000 over here is quite high and I'm not sure it's actually available now. I think it's the 5001 and 7001 now. What I love with them is the bass attack - nothing else much gets near that!!! Timps are absolutely brilliant with them. Very big speaker-like sound. Well, if I got you curious about the D2000, now you have me curious about the cable!!! Hi, Ian Since my last post I have been reading about the difference between the D2000, the D5000, and the D7000. I read in one place that the drivers on the D5000 are the exact same drivers as those on the D2000; the D7000 has a different membrane, and a slightly stronger magnet, hence making it somewhat more efficient. The fellow who wrote the article had taken apart all three of the above, had photos showing the disassembled cans online, and saw that the part numbers of the D2000 and D5000 drivers are the same. The only difference between the two is claimed to be the material of the cups and the damping; the D2000 being plastic with some damping material inside, and the D5000 mahogany without any damping whatsoever. I don't know if this is all there is to it, and perhaps there is a difference in the crossover wiring, which he didn't mention. Your idea of playing a bit with the D2000's damping, however, may bring some desirable results. At this point, I am happy with the SQ of my D2000, and am not in a hurry to modify them further, for I will soon have the HE-500 here, and my attention will be on them, and making a new Cardas cable for them. Kind Regards, Israel
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