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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 22:07:20 GMT
I've compiled a video of helis to show what they're like in the air in order to guide people into a kind of 'learning' path. Nothing special but as they progress, you'll see them appearing slightly less stable for two reasons:
a) They get harder to fly b) I had a camera strapped to my head and wasn't able to see properly!!! (seriously, I did)
1. MCX
Dead easy. Smooth and hovers with ease.
2. MCX 2 Same as MCX
3. MSR Single rotor. A bit more difficult to hold but stable as far as single blades go. Can't get them now - go for a Nine Eagles Solo Pro.
4. 120 sr Bigger single rotor. Like a big MSR. A bit big indoors as you will see.
5. MSRx A bugger to hold - especially when you're blind with a camera on your face. Takes a lot to keep it still and fly straight and slowly.
6. MCPx A REAL bugger. Took no chances with this indoors. Very fast and agile so I just put it in the air and down again.
7. CX3 Bigger coaxial.Fun indoors and out but big in your front room.
8. CX2 This was made up by me from a friend's debris following a serious crash. I bought bits and put it all together.
Nothing fancy on the video, just to show the pattern and what they look like in the air in a front room.
Later, perhaps I'll do some stunt videos to show what they can do properly. This is just to help new people get something decent and not a daft toy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 23:12:33 GMT
Had to watch of course! Lets be having the stunt vids then , doubtless you are waaaaaaay beyond my novice efforts. BTW, where's that guitaring loop from?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 5:28:57 GMT
What a great idea! Nice video Ian, very interesting
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 9:02:54 GMT
The music just comes with a video package, Chris.
I did most of it with just one eye 'cos the camera was on my nose!! That's why I was finding it difficult to land on the poof! ;-) I had to be especially careful with the MCPx because that's the one I'm least familiar with, it's bloody fast and lethal and the throttle also changes the pitch of the blades so you can get some scary rises. ;-0
Trouble with stunting is that you need quite a big space and so the camera needs to be off my head and on a tripod. Then the heli can look a bit small.
Best for stunting is MSRx or MCPx.
The blades on my MCPx have been changed to KBBD ones which are white and easier seen against trees.
I didn't put the Sky Taxi up. Too dangerous indoors with one eye. It was bad enough with the 120sr and the CX's.
Anyway, it gives newbies some idea of what they're buying if they go for Blades.
Only 2 missing. The SR and 450. No way would I hover anything like that indoors!!!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 9:44:10 GMT
Damned good camcorder Ian... is it a special "fit on nose" type or did you duct tape it onto your head? Must have a go getting my camcorder attached to my head, it's a great idea... finding the record button may be a problem tho'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 10:06:08 GMT
It's just an HD Flip camera, Mike.
I have a night fishing light that goes around your head. (A fat rubber band) So I trapped the camera onto the bridge of my nose so I knew where it was pointing. You look a bit of a dickhead though.
Trouble is, the camera impedes your view so quite a bit of the video was done blind (virtually) which made me very nervous with the MCPx in particular since it's a bit lethal and I flew very gingerly so I didn't damage anything or myself - particularly with the bigger ones!!!
I'll try finding the sweet spot on my head so I can see next time!!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 10:58:43 GMT
Strap it around your chest... that way you'll also be able to capture the "sticks"... no good for me though as I operate the sticks behind my back (it's my latest "showpiece")
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 11:37:16 GMT
Something like this maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 12:45:22 GMT
That is scarily close to what I was actually doing!!!! I couldn't see the helis properly, you see ...... I was almost flying by radar. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 15:43:53 GMT
You must be going batty Ian Found a great smily.... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 18:47:45 GMT
Well, I was only seeing with one eye and I'd had no booze. I missed the poof at one point and I don't normally miss - I just couldn't see.
So I flew them all really steady - especially the MCPx which is a collective pitch heli and a killer to keep still in the air.
I went for a fly in the garden with the 120sr and MSRx today, so I really slammed them around.
The little MSRx is a better flyer outdoors. It really goes and I was doing some real stunting out there.
Trouble is, it'll look pretty small on a video, I reckon. I'm also worried someone will see me!!!!!!
The MSRx is seriously fast and agile. I was going left and right really fast with turns at either end. It was going so fast that when I turn, it went up in the air and did a really steep bank before shooting back. Quite an amazing fixed pitch heli.
It's really hard to learn how to fly, but once it clicks, it's unbelievable actually.
A gust of wind caught it at one point so it went up in the sky so I eased the throttle right back and it was virtually hovering with the blades barely turning and then it came down really gracefully.
I do enjoy flying outside a lot and I'm looking forward to getting the MCPx collective pitch out there once I have a real solid grip.
That's the only thing - before you go outside, you MUST have a real grip of the heli or else the wind will send it away off course and if you can't basically control it, it will crash for sure.
Now, I tend to fly with the wind and then bank into it which gives spectacular speed with a natural brake on the turn.
It's a lot more enjoyable than flitting about indoors with the fear of hitting walls, people and furniture. You can really let it go and boy does the MSRx go.
The least enjoyable outside are the MCX3 and 2 actually. Not enough power to fight even tiny breezes which is a great shame.
I love the attatchment!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 19:26:04 GMT
Took a couple of vids in the bike shop today.... starting with MCX2.... one is a simple spin (me on the sticks) and the other is Sam hovering with me "attempting" to take a close up shot... we were also practising landing the MCX2 on a bucket with book on top (not as easy as it looks!) quite good fun really.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 19:50:16 GMT
Those MCX2's are hard to put down square. The backdraft sends them daft. Good practise though.
I practise landings and take offs with them all for a long time before I even get hovering.
With the MCPx, if you don't get off the ground cleanly, you'll spend the next three minutes trying to get it to stay still. Probably much the same with your Honey Bee.
Now I'm holding the MSRx properly, I'm really starting to enjoy outdoor flying. That one is worth learning - it behaves pretty well for a fixed blade in the wind - probably because the rotors are quite narrow.
Once I get a grip of the MCPx, that'll go outside.
Mike, do you have a lot of negative pitch at the bottom of your stick with the Honey Bee? I dialled a lot of the strong negative out and it makes it much more flyable.
So at zero throttle, I have the pitch at 50%. As I get used to the heli, I'll up the negative pitch so that I can get it down quicker in the wind, but for the time being, I'm being very careful. (Although I wasn't that careful flying with one eye for the video!!)
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 20:58:56 GMT
Hi Ian, I use the stock transmitter with the Honey Bee CP3 so not sure what the pitch is.... I hope to have a vid of it in action on the next available outdoor flying day I can do everything but the upside down stuff.... it's a lot easier to fly than the MSRx. The next vid of the MCX2 (which is STILL uploading!) is a simple "close up" type vid.... 5% of it is well worth watching.... I must get some decent editing software.... the way Sam lands it FIRST GO on the bucket is just awesome.... It took me 20 attempts.... his remit was to hold it pretty steady whilst I got underneath it and attempted a close up shot.... I'll do the same with the MCX and it can "add" to this post... BTW, the upload times to youtube are just stoneage, it's like watching paint dry! Next up we want to do a slow mo vid.... 30 seconds of flying in slow mo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 21:25:51 GMT
Great - you've got it going!! Normally, 0 pitch is at 50% throttle, but it's labelled 50%.
Below that should be negative pitch so that no throttle is around 11 degrees negative and full throttle gives 11 degrees positive. That's how you fly upside down - with negative pitch!!
The MSRx is a bugger but once you have it, it flies smooth as butter. Outdoors, it's brilliant. It is actually easier than the MCPx. (The mini collective pitch)
I'm waiting for a flybarless 120 sr. If it flies as well as the MSRx outside, the added size and weight will be a bonus. It's probably coming soon.
I'd like to start on a 450 but it's quite a lot of dosh to throw around in the sky!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 22:27:36 GMT
Hi Mike I am REALLY pleased for you, after all you have been through , but some of the stuff in your latest post is best reserved for more secure areas, OR perhaps revive those late night live discussions ? Kind Regards Alex
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 22:30:17 GMT
Sure, if I can download it. The Flip software works with mp4, I think. Maybe I'll do another strapdictamee with the camera and try some stunts with one eye. I didn't do any real editing though Mike. I just shot them flying and stuck them together. The software I'm using is called Flipshare and it may be free. I'll have a look. It might be this: download.cnet.com/FlipShare/3000-18515_4-10973664.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 22:59:25 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2012 23:02:03 GMT
I'll leave it in your capable hands mate... feel free to transfer my balls into a more secure area (The BALL zone)... I'm "almost" ready to come back and inject some ZOOM into this joint but, in the interim period, please keep an eye on my balls Mike.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2012 1:16:36 GMT
Hi Mike I am REALLY pleased for you, after all you have been through , but some of the stuff in your latest post is best reserved for more secure areas, OR perhaps revive those late night live discussions ? Kind Regards Alex Really agree with you Alex. Much as we all love Mike, a graphic description of the inner workings of his Gentlemen's Parts are leaving me with pictures in my head which I definitely don't want there ;D ;D Jeff
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 18, 2012 10:02:33 GMT
Here we go.... I manage to get a few good close up shots.... Sam is doing the flying and I was following the MCX2 about with the camera Best viewed full screen 720p
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 18, 2012 10:33:44 GMT
Spinning top
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2012 10:38:17 GMT
Nice smooth flying, Mike. I wouldn't mind getting in that heli!! The MCX2 makes such a good starter heli and sets you up with a transmitter for future BNF buys.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 18, 2012 21:43:18 GMT
The Blade MCX2 is a great helicopter to start out with. Don't think that means "boring"..... the MCX2 is great fun to fly and possibly the only "true to form" helicopter out there.... (it LOOKS / BEHAVES like a real helicopter in flight).... you can have fun with them tho'
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