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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 15:35:03 GMT
Sometime, it's not better, it's just 'different'. Subjective opinion....  Ian |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 15:39:59 GMT
I tried some on my body. The one on the left is at the start of the treatment and the one on the right is after treatment. It also changes your sex. Wonderful powder.  Ian I think I prefer the look of you "before" There cannot be many here that would disagree with that opinion can there (Ian?) Dave. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 16:32:21 GMT
I could end up with Hi Rezzzzzz Korgs!! One could wrap one's dog and end up with a High Rezzz Corgi...  OMG! Does this mean Sikhs and Muslims are Hi-Res humans  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 20:11:05 GMT
If you can wrap them around the middle of a power lead or interconnect, well away from the plugs and sockets, and hear an improvement, then it is the recipient that has been conditioned, NOT the equipment ! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 20:29:43 GMT
Maybe the dust glows when the power is on so the electrons can see their way more clearly?  I always drive slower in the Dartford Tunnel and it's placebo ..... first, I have to pay to go through so I go slowly to get my money's worth and it's dark in there. If we wrapped the tunnel in glow wrap, I could go faster as a little electron in a bubble car. Ian |
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Post by pjc68 on Oct 30, 2011 21:23:07 GMT
maybe its cocaine for hifi ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 21:35:07 GMT
maybe its cocaine for hifi ;D paddy Maybe the recipient gets high when he handles the stuff ! ;D |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 30, 2011 22:30:08 GMT
maybe its cocaine for hifi ;D paddy Maybe the recipient gets high when he handles the stuff ! ;D Alex, Let's wait until a few people have auditioned them shall we? Much like your "rips", not everybody agrees that these wraps can be doing anything BUT my ears seem to be telling me otherwise... maybe you could wrap your ripping device, it may improve the "rips" even more  |
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Post by leo on Oct 30, 2011 22:58:44 GMT
Do these work like ERS cloth?
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Post by XTRProf on Oct 31, 2011 10:33:17 GMT
Do these work like ERS cloth? No, that's too substandard! The Holy Grail of Hifi ...............  |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 31, 2011 10:51:32 GMT
Ian, I'll get these wraps in the post to you tomorrow. They have had about 3 days on them so should be burnt in by now I'll have a good listen to the music without wraps and see if I am missing anything. Mike. |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 1, 2011 8:56:14 GMT
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Post by XTRProf on Nov 1, 2011 9:40:07 GMT
Ian, Don't forget this trial if sufficient wraps.   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 20:35:42 GMT
Well, the little packet arrived and I must say, when you open it up, it's kind of a weird sight. I thought you'd sent something nasty Mike!! I'll have a go on the weekend, but I must admit to feeling weird, wrapping up wires in what looks quite ......... unappealing. They look a bit like nasty teabags. Trouble is, there is no way to compare before/after since they're claiming that it takes time for the effect to 'build' and also fade away. I feel kind of strange about this ........ For a minute, I thought there were condoms inside.  Good grief, I feel daft. The wife asked me what I was doing. How could I tell her I was wrapping wires up with tea bags, it just feels strange. Apparently, the effect can't be heard for 10 minutes and it gets better over 48 hours!!! I've wrapped the power lead to Little Pinkie, the power lead to V8 and the inputs on the V8. I just feel a bit daft; especially after seeing the price of these things. Is it some kind of shielding? Ian |
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Post by Chris53 on Nov 3, 2011 22:01:14 GMT
My interconnect version arrived today and after feeling a prat tying them on and telling the wife how much they cost I waited 10 minutes or so and gave it a listen. First impressions were that there WAS a difference.. A cleaning up and more relaxed and detailed sound. Despite having tried a balanced transformer and the Belkin p30 to attempt to sort out what appeared to be a mains issue, I still found that the system sounds better at 4am. The Miracle Wraps seem to be moving me closer to that 4am sound. I'm going to give it more of a listen in a moment. They've been on the system for a few hours now so maybe there will be a further improvement.
It does seem a mad idea though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 22:41:47 GMT
Hi Chris, I have everything wrapped up here and now I'm beginning to feel a tad uncomfortable. I have no vested interest in these things and so I don't really care whether they do or don't work but I must be having friggin' illusions. What you just described is what I 'think' I'm hearing, but can't see any reason how, except it's my head. Trouble is, you can't a/b unless you have two same set ups. My feelings are that your ears are more inside the 'room' and detail seems plainer but my head is telling me that it's impossible. I'm listening (would you believe) to Michael Jackson and it seems like he's singing closer to my ears and the tiny sound effects that he tends to put into his recordings are very 'etched' into the mix. To be honest, I feel like a berk saying this and now feel that my head must be playing tricks. I'm not convinced because I know it's really easy to become swayed by the head and how the bloody hell can this do anything? The site statements look like pure bullshine to me. I feel pretty daft saying this, but as Mike knows, I try to be as honest as I can so I would say I'm not convinced, but I am a trifle embarrassed by what I think I'm hearing. Do you feel as though your ears are closer to the music so that it's just more defined? Mike, do you know what's in the teabag? Is it just some kind of shield? I don't know - are these guys for real or are we being duped? I really can't tell, but if my head is playing tricks, then I intend to wrap the goldfish around the wires if it makes my head think that the sound becomes 'golden'. The power of suggestion is quite enormous and I'm in two minds and feel daft. I'm also turning the volume down - it sounds full at lower volume. It's just plain crazy really. I have the V8 at just 9 o clock on the Beyer DT990 and I usually listen around 10 - 11 o clock. The sound is still full and rich. So all you objectivists, don't start bullying me!!!!! I can't help it if I'm mad.  Mike, is this guy sending out at the moment to as many as he can for testing or is it just the chosen nutters? This is quite a puzzle to me and I can't work out whether it's my head playing tricks or it's somehow different. Ian |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 22:58:12 GMT
Send them to Frans to listen to ! ;D Ian Next time you take off, stick them in front of the nose of an Airport dog sniffer and see what happens.  Alex |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 23:33:23 GMT
Ian, Do you have any 2 examples of the same player or amp at your disposal? You could then tea bag-wrap one and use the other as control, switching them over as a double check. ------------------------------------ I wonder if they will have Earl Grey, Green, Jasmine etc. |
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Post by joethearachnid on Nov 3, 2011 23:48:51 GMT
I wonder if they will have Earl Grey, Green, Jasmine etc. I'll bite of there's a Lapsang Souchong variety. -JoetheArachnid |
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Post by XTRProf on Nov 4, 2011 3:12:42 GMT
Ian, The best is to "record" the same reference tracks with and without the wraps as Alex had for his demos and A/Bing. But don't A/B more than 5 times at a go as your brain will get confuse and tire. You know the drill. I'll be interested to have a sample of your "recorded" A/B reference tracks. 192-24 hirez will be best as the differences will be more obvious. I think lots of people at RG will be interested as well. So send samples by up loading to those free FTP sites and let us have those links to download for our A/B. No, this is not being MAD but MAD about the truth and nothing but the truth. No not this ..............  Thanks for your kind consideration and support in this. PS: Btw, let wifey join in the A/B as well and she will be less suspicious of your "weirdo voodoo" act. Anyway, women always have better hearing than us guys as they tend to be very detail animals. Ok, Ok, animals, again not what you guys think again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 6:25:59 GMT
Guaranteed you they DO work didn't I ?
It is not because the inventor is Dutch and a 'spiritual teacher'.
I know WHY they work (and thus can guarantee it) but alas cannot discuss it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 6:31:09 GMT
Alex, Frans will be laughing his head off!! Maybe I'm just paying more attention to the sound so it just 'seems' different? That could easily be why. There's no easy way to check it either.
Chris, I haven't got two of the same. That's really the only way to tell.
All I can say is if the gear sounds like this all the time, then it's really good and I never realised how good.
I am a realist and I think Mike knows that which is perhaps why he sent the damned things to me! I put them on with the feeling that this is plain daft. I expected everything to be the same.
What I 'think' I hear is just a slight shift closer to the sound. However, I'm also telling myself that it's not possible.
I wouldn't buy them because the cost is just too high. So anyone who believes stuff I write ...... Do not buy them on my recommendation or flawed listening test. I would hate to see people acting on what I'm writing.
It could well be a 'head' thing where just the action of wrapping wires focuses your listening. That's the only way I can explain it.
As I said Alex, Frans would totally dismiss what I've said so I leave a leeway for his views. Of course, he would be correct in saying not possible and that's also what I feel.
That's why I'm a tad uncomfortable with what I think I hear.
Btw, I didn't look at what the effects are supposed to be until after I listened and the description is actually what I think I'm hearing.
However, my listening could well be flawed and I know that!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 6:52:44 GMT
Ian I wonder if Mike had reported not hearing any difference, whether you would still have noticed any difference ? It could still be interesting to have a qualified chemist check the contents.Send them on to Frans and see if his rigid mindset allows him to report anything but a negative result. I must admit that I would more than likely want to repeat the test again without them, but they seem to be saying that the effect persists for some time. This could of course be a furphy designed to stop people from being more objective about it all ? Alex |
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Post by XTRProf on Nov 4, 2011 7:17:59 GMT
I know WHY they work (and thus can guarantee it) but alas cannot discuss it. Wah, we have a modern messiah who doesn't believe in GOD. Ian, record in hirez and Give The People What They Want. As usual, music time LIVE ............ to be convinced. |
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 4, 2011 9:18:44 GMT
Ian.... they definitely did something for my system, now that they have gone it seems that a certain june se qua has gone from the music. I felt a bit daft too when I heard them for the first time and was thinking "no way can these do ANYTHING" so I didn't go into this expecting a miracle.
The truth is quite simple, with the miracle wraps onboard and "to my ears" certain aspects of the presentation were definitely improved, more presence, greater space and more focused definition.
I see no reason why anybody should feel "stupid"... if they are improving the SQ (which they appear to be doing for quite a few folk) then they are doing something and that should be welcomed.
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