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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 10:15:54 GMT
I've had quite a while on it now, Mike and tbh, it's not my favourite either.
The trimming issues are basically down to the crudity of the control. I have found that if you trim it say, right and then go just one more, it suddenly goes right fairly quickly and when you trim back just one stop again, it's still going right until you go another one or two. The heli suddenly kicks in and it's just too crude. That's why it's hard to trim.
I gave up and just hold it on the control.
The other thing is, get into a hover and very slowly push forward. The heli (again) suddenly kicks in and goes off too fast. It also suddenly stops.
It's far cruder than the MSR and not really in the same league imo.
I know the MSR has pendulum problems but that's part of its stability and you can actually control it. The V2 also returns backwards if you stop quickly. It's a bit too lively for me.
It kind of makes you nervous of the controls.
The plastic links also look a little more brittle than the MSR's. The skids are a pain!!
However, it's cheap to buy BNF and something to be able to actually chuck around outside. I tried it yesterday in the garden. It does indeed hold it's own, but the combined problem of the wind and those crude controls makes it very hairy to fly.
120 SR - fine.
I know the Blades are dearer, but they seem a good route to me, Mike. In fact, I've pre-ordered an MSR x since it doesn't have that flybar and will probably overcome that pendulum that everyone gets.
I do think that it was mean of them not to replace a canopy.
Anyway, looking at your writing, seem a bit down, Mike. A bit annoyed with them as well, so let's hope you feel a bit better tomorrow when you contact them or you'll scare them!!!
I had a thought this morning - i wonder what the cost of buying the parts and putting it together yourself is? Now I've seen what's in there, it's fiddly, but not rocket science I guess. Your heli mate could help there.
What IS the warranty with these things anyway? Very little talk of warranty period and even less on "what" is covered?.... warranties don't worry me too much as most gear these days is pretty reliable but these things are DEFINITELY something that carry a warranty..... say 12 motors pack in in a one year period, they should all be replaced free of charge under warranty BUT, as I say.... I see no reference to the word "warranty" .... I think it should be made clear if there is a warranty or NOT! If "not" then I won't be buying any more. if "so" then where exactly IS this warranty?
That's a difficult one with helis isn't it? They do say if you open the box and it has a fault, then they need to know within 24 hours normally.
Trouble is, so many people would crash a single blade within 30 seconds and do permanent damage. Personally, I can't see why they didn't just send a completely new heli, Mike because the crash was caused by the rotor and you could have damaged somewhere else. It would be cheap for them to just replace the thing.
I bet they don't get many returns because they're smashed into bits very soon after being bought by a lot of people!!
Main thing is .... keep well!!
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 23, 2011 11:14:14 GMT
I've got a stinker of a cold and a bad chest infection, first time I've spent so long in bed for years.... Just run down with that Ian and not so much "down" but knackered! Feeling a bit better today and will have a go at eating something (no appetite for almost a week now)... a really nasty little "bug" this one is and probably the first that has caused me to take to the bed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 11:51:01 GMT
Keep your head down, Mike. These nasty things can develop into something worse so don't be impatient.
Practise hovering in bed, or just order an MSR!!! (a 'sick' present - better than grapes) ;-)
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 29, 2011 22:00:10 GMT
My Nine Eagles Pro V2 arrived back from Buzz Flyer (after they had repaired it) and my "second" flight was even more fun than the first one (tail rotor problems).... I fired her up into the air but she refused to go forwards or backwards.... one of the servos wasn't working.
I phoned Buzz Flyer and John Cleave (not Cleese) told me that this was "VERY VERY" rare and "this type of thing usually only happens after a crash / impact"..... Same guy who insinuated I had flown it into a kiln or something when he said the canopy had suffered "heat damage"....
Anyhoo... I have had a total of TWO minutes airtime with the fekkin' thing since buying it and it is off to "Buzz Flyer" again because it won't fly forwards or backwards (no, I haven't been playing with it in the swimming pool!)..... what a cheesy outfit, they "repair" a brand new "defunct" helicopter and then send it back "defunct"... at this moment in time I am pretty pissed off with the attitude of "Buzz Flyer" and their "we have sold thousands of these and this has never happened" accusing type responses.
Thanks to Ian for sending me HIS Nine Eagles Pro V2.... It took off and landed without self combusting so I KNOW these are good helicopters.... just a case of hoping "Buzz Flyer" send me a good one and don't attempt another "repair" on a brand new purchase....
Here you go Ian, my first flight with a fully operational V2, many thanks for sending it over... it has restored my faith in the V2..... She's a bit of a handful and I'd imagine she'd be very nippy! I did my best to control her and was quite happy with my maiden flight:
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 17, 2011 20:17:45 GMT
Woweeee! I had her outside this afternoon (was calm) and MY GOD this thing can shift! I was flying her in outdoor mode and it was fantastic, I used the entire span of the garden and got her circling at some insane speeds! Now that I'm confident outdoors I'll take a video of my next outing, it is SO much better than indoors as it is pretty much unrestricted flight and you can give her full throttle. I fired her about 400 feet up into the air and must admit I felt a bit nervous, it went up FAST but took an age to coax back down.... brilliant buzz though, a lot better than hovering at 5 foot or so
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 21:51:54 GMT
I love flying outside as well. It's a pity that we have to really use CP helis to avoid small breezes. Anything else is a flat day fly.
It is great when the heli goes up there into the sky and you're controlling it. Did you try flying across the sky, Mike. When I first went out, I just sent the heli up and then came down slowly.
Sometimes when I'm feeling brave and I feel that the wind isn't going to go, I try flying in fast forward up there and turning to come back and start a descent.
It's one of those 'bottle' things again isn't it. At least if the V2 goes missing in service, it's not a big deal.
Quite dodgy flying a mini single blade up there!! I noticed that it flew all over the place if you coughed.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 26, 2011 20:06:33 GMT
First "flight" for a while today... Nine Eagles Pro V2 with red canopy.... they really are a fun little helicopter, you've got be one step ahead all the time with them
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 31, 2011 23:02:37 GMT
Flight two hours ago (to prove I'm not pished!) the couple of in flight "knocks" and crash at the end do not indicate any alcohol involvement.... they were "intentional" and all part of the demonstration If anything, the fast "recovery" is indicative of "on the ball" reflexes and superb flying skills. I repeat, the pilot was not under the influence of anything other than caffiene when this was filmed I'm loving the Solo V2 now, it's as fast as f@ck BUT highly controlable, once you get the hang of it, I hated it at first but can now understand why Sam rates it so highly... it's a pure joy to fly. The "knocks" and final crash were not intentional (BTW).... I was just pushing the room boundaries to the limit.... one of those "sports hall" places would be great... you could really go full out and fling her about full throttle without fear of "boundaries".... Barring crashes I am now getting 9 minutes flight time out of the Nine Eagles Solo Pro V2 with the Miniaviation 190mAh / 25C batteries... that is bloody good going! New Years resolution? Attempt to do a normal flight (on camera) without crashing! Dunno what it is but as soon as that camera is turned on I tend to slow down the flight and become overly "aware"..... it ends up with a capture that is not indicative of the normal exhilarating "relaxed" flight..... stage nerves maybe
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 1, 2012 2:32:11 GMT
Over to you Ian
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 9:04:56 GMT
You're flying the V2 really well, Mike. What is good about that heli is just how fast you're able to fly in a tight space. It really swings round corners like lightening!!
I don' think the msr grips like that. It's almost like you have big fat Dunlops on it and they grip really hard. Also value for money on these things is fantastic.
I'd say that they're definitely a good heli to move on to after the mcx2. They're a solid, stable flight with the speed of a single blade.
It's a good 'un for you, Mike without a doubt. You're throwing it all over the place!!!
Is it only Buzzflyer that sells them?
Oh no -= just checked. I wanted to see what they sell for without that case.
It also makes real sense doing the adaptation for Blade batteries. I think you can use both can't you? I'd rip the Nine Eagles skids off and try to fit a Blade one with a single wire for the battery - then it would fit in really well with a Blade collector like me!!! I can't stand all the chargers and remotes!!!!
At the moment, I have 8 helis and I don't know what I'd do with 8 remotes. Thankfully, 7 of them are Blades.
It would be nice if all of the makers adopted a single type of transmitter.
I'm off to Norwich for a couple of days. Maybe I'll have a look for a model shop there!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 1, 2012 21:13:46 GMT
A bit more with another crash.... I need a bigger room to really let this puppy rip in...
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 15, 2012 15:31:36 GMT
First calm day for a flight and you can hardly see the little bugger on the video!.... MUCH better outdoors though!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 15, 2012 18:04:32 GMT
Another outdoor one best viewed in fullscreen otherwise you won't see it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 20:35:51 GMT
It's like watching a midge!!! You need a bigger one - cx3, Mike. Nice flying too. The V2 works well outside and it's such a stable heli to fly too. It's fast isn't it? My bumble bee stopped working on the ailerons for no reason. TBH they piss me off a bit with quality control and I can't be arsed with the crappy battery life that you get with them. You did the right thing converting the V2 to turnigy batteries because the Nine Eagles ones are really not good. Did you get a Bravo SX? If not - save it, Mike!!!! They fly well but I seem to get quality control problems and with the crap battery life, it's just not worth the effort for me. Not challenging enough - I'm getting all snooty. I think I'll move on to MCPx because it's a CP heli.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 15, 2012 20:55:51 GMT
Hi Ian, It was great out there but that video camera is just shite.... the Solo was going crazy (the yellow one) and the camera just couldn't keep up with the speed so those vids are of the red one (slow swash balls).... I wish it was like that every day out there, I'd be out every day flying something about the place. The Honey Bee is out of action for a few days, I smashed the blades into the side of a tree and I have broken quite a few bits.... I was too busy trying to get a fag out of my mouth (the smoke was getting in my eyes) and the next thing I know........ thwack!Those bigger birds are fine, when they're up, but smashe them into a tree and you are looking at a fair bit of time consuming repair work The stock Nine Eagles batteries are SHITE, I agree, the best ones I have tried are the Miniaviation 190mAh (the ones for the e-flite 'copters) they are 25c and don't seen to run out of gas or go all funny on you... they are solid from start to finish, whatever the speed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 21:14:48 GMT
Bugger. You whacked it. Trouble is, the shock goes down into the cogs as well with the biggies.
You have a great space there, Mike. I'm forever holding my helis back outside because I run out of space or a tree gets in the way. I'm going to have to try and find a field where people don't turn up to gawp.
Did you get the Bravo SX? Personally, I'd save the money:
Battery Wobble on hover Quality control
It's a V2 in another body. In fact, I'd rather be flying a V2 I think!!! The extra body weight zaps the battery even more.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 15, 2012 21:24:02 GMT
I didn't get the Bravo Ian, I'm doing a bit of penny pinching at the moment what with the car.... I spent far too much on ebay last year, was just doing my tax returns and couldn't believe what I laid out on ebay Nope, I'm laying off any purchases for a while and making do with what I have
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 21:27:19 GMT
Just as well, Mike. It hovers beautifully until you get these wobbles. Apparently it's a common problem as well. It's entertaining but not a long lasting heli for me.
The V2 is better.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 15, 2012 21:38:00 GMT
V2 is probably my favourite... it's fast, it's stable, it makes a lovely sound and you can turn it on a sixpence.... The only thing that lets it down is the stock battery but easy enough to modify it so it accepts e-flite types. I fired her way up into the sky today and it's a pretty good buzz thinking you are controlling that "dot" in the sky... what is the range of the stock controller, any idea?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 22:01:31 GMT
I haven't tested the range, Mike.
I'm not certain it's that far because the Spektrums use battery power like mad, but the range is 1 - 2 miles, I think. The Nine Eagles one doesn't use anything like the power. However, you go much more than 100 - 200 yards and you won't see the V2. You'll be flying by sound.
Is there any way of resetting the Nine Eagles to factory with regard to sub trims? I set sub trims for the Bravo but forgot how many. I can't see any reset option but then again, I never found the sub trim button either!!!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 15, 2012 22:36:27 GMT
Wouldn't you just rebind the bravo?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 7:36:48 GMT
I wondered about that. I'm not sure that it resets the transmitter back to zero on all the settings.
The DX6i has a display that tells you where you are so you can always revert easily.
Apparently, you have to be careful with sub trims because it can end up not pushing one servo fully out while pushing the opposite one too far!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 16, 2012 8:53:00 GMT
Surely, all the sub trim does is adjust the servo throw and settings in the receiver? I have two Solo V2's... if I sub trim one of them, the other one doesn't become affected.... I think it adjusts the actual helicopter?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 10:01:17 GMT
Surely, all the sub trim does is adjust the servo throw and settings in the receiver? I have two Solo V2's... if I sub trim one of them, the other one doesn't become affected.... I think it adjusts the actual helicopter? Oh ho .... I never thought of that. I just thought it was moving what the middle point was on the transmitter so if you move say, left by 3 that would equal (If there were 20 steps.) 7 plus 3 extra on the left and 13 on the right so the srvo could theoritically get pushed too hard on the right.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jan 16, 2012 10:58:30 GMT
I think it just adjusts the settings on the 'copter..... for example, if I sub trim Solo 1 and then fly solo 2 it doesn't affect solo 2.... It basically trims the copters (I think).
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