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Post by clausdk on Mar 12, 2010 21:09:52 GMT
Instead of spamming other threads, I will show my work in a separate thread.. This is for Frans (got me a new can of glue) Please note that the uglyness in on the back side and will almost be invisible when mounted.. Please comment, good or bad, it is all good to me Frans: If you want a shine on it just apply some leathergrease or colourless shoecream and polish it up, I only clean it.. I like it matt Send me your address and please take some photos of the mounted headband, when it arrives..
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Post by covenant on Mar 12, 2010 21:24:52 GMT
Looks good to me but would it be better to wrap the leather around the original headband?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2010 21:34:59 GMT
Hi Claus,
Looking good Claus,
Hope you have enough leather to make some more for other RG members if they are interested. If you want it wrapped around the original headband you would have to send the headband to Claus.
thanks,
Frans
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Post by clausdk on Mar 12, 2010 21:52:33 GMT
Looks good to me but would it be better to wrap the leather around the original headband? Have not tried that, it would be so much easier, but I will loose the gained comfort, by using that stiff headband and then it will just be *bling*.. I would also lose my template But a nice idea, thanks.. The band is as soft as a glove and adds to the comfort, but it is strong as hell, in teory it should be able to carry 80 kilos I just went to the secondhand shop to get some leather and they had 50% off so got me some very nice jackets And by very nice I do mean very nice indeed.. I also do think that I could make these bands for any phones that has the "akg style".. Next up will be one for my HD660, built like a Beyer..
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 12, 2010 22:04:19 GMT
I hope you are using contact adhesive (Evo stick) as this remains pretty compliant in service unlike PVA which will crack when the headband flexes.... Yeh, looking good Claus but hand stitching would be the ultimate way to go.... if you have a sewing machine, even better! I agree with the poster who recommended you fit the leather over the existing headband..... this would be even more comfy and you could also incorporate some thin foam inbetween (like a sandwich) which would really pad / plump things up nicely.... Nice work
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Post by puffin on Mar 12, 2010 22:54:08 GMT
I got a bit carried away
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Post by clausdk on Mar 12, 2010 23:02:00 GMT
Contact adhesive it is all the way, feeling very joyfull doing the work..
I have just started making your's Mike. You can get any colur you want as long as it is black . . .
I have ordered some padding, but that is for earpads. .
I can pad it, but I have no padding and it will complicate things quite a bit.. Padding will also isolate and genrerate heat.. which is not good.
As long as there is some hair on the head I do think that padless is the comfy route.. Maybe I should make a special version for the bald guys, seriously..
I am looking into a sewing machine, but the leather ones are expensive, it has to be durable and strong..
I will not be covering the original headband, unless somebody, sends me theirs.. I would also expect some troubles with the added thickness and mounting it..
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Post by clausdk on Mar 12, 2010 23:03:30 GMT
I got a bit carried away I only do those on request and paid in advance. BTW that is not my work..
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Post by covenant on Mar 12, 2010 23:18:03 GMT
I think you will have some problems in the long term if you dont reinforce the part where the leather joins to the plastic support. The leather will stretch and tear. So some form of plastic material would be needed at this point, hidden inside the leather.
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Post by MaN227 on Mar 12, 2010 23:23:10 GMT
keep up the good work claus
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Post by clausdk on Mar 12, 2010 23:26:57 GMT
I think you will have some problems in the long term if you dont reinforce the part where the leather joins to the plastic support. The leather will stretch and tear. So some form of plastic material would be needed at this point, hidden inside the leather. something like this ?? I do have plastic inside and a nylonstring to make it a bit rigid and make it very strong also
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Post by clausdk on Mar 13, 2010 0:18:47 GMT
Now all I need is to make some holes.. Please note the not so round end and the nicer "seem" on the backside. It is getting better and better ;D ;D It will be on your way monday Mike.. If you wish to wait for a padded version let me know, I can probably find someone else to send this too..
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Post by oink1 on Mar 13, 2010 18:17:40 GMT
These for the SuperLux? (Mine are conspicuous by there abcense, no stock ) Well done Claus! - looking VERY good indeed.
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Post by clausdk on Mar 13, 2010 19:42:58 GMT
These for the SuperLux? (Mine are conspicuous by there abcense, no stock ) Well done Claus! - looking VERY good indeed. Yes and thanks I suspect that they will fit some of the AKGmodels as well.. If I have the original headband, I can "copy" almost every headband one could wish..
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Post by clausdk on Mar 13, 2010 23:34:52 GMT
Version 3.0 You start out with 2 pieces of plastic, sand them a bit so the glue stick and cut holes like the ones in the normal headband. Then you fix the pieces on top of the old headband, glue the edges and a piece of string, we glue the string at the edges of the plastik make it fit Then we mark out our new headband, does not have to be precise, we are not building rocketships.. then we glue once again the upperside is the one with the string and we cover the hole plastik and the marked out areas on the leather Then we press the plastik and string piece to the leather. We glue again apr 1 cm on each side of the string. turn it around and make sure that the gluing at the strings are as sharp as possible Cut the leather so that it can be laid over without getting wider than the headband, then you will have three lairs of leather, take a ruler and a sharp knife and cut through the top two lairs, DO NOT CUT THE LAST LAIR.. Glue one side to the middle and press the leather toogether. then the other side the rest is a fiddeling job and hard to make photos off
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Post by clausdk on Mar 14, 2010 1:12:41 GMT
Then you end up with
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2010 10:47:54 GMT
Nice to have had a father that worked in the leather business..
Pays off now !
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Post by clausdk on Mar 14, 2010 14:55:11 GMT
Nice to have had a father that worked in the leather business.. Pays off now ! Well I discovered a few weeks ago that my father only sniffed to the buisiness, so my tools are from my Grandfather, some are actually from ZE germans, who forced him to do leatherwork for them during the war..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2010 15:10:00 GMT
I will send you some Lederhosen crutch pieces to work on then Claus
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Post by clausdk on Mar 14, 2010 16:17:56 GMT
I am plannig to try some padding on the big one I did yesterday..
Cut out a piece that has apr. the same size as the band glue the sides and stuff it before closing it..
Any suggestions ? thickness ? soft/hard ? wide/narrow ? long/short ? Pillows ?
I need some ideas
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Post by clausdk on Mar 14, 2010 17:03:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2010 17:44:24 GMT
Hi Claus, My suggestion for padding: a single piece of, say, 10mm thick, cut at regular 20mm intervals on the top face, as used, across the width, to a depth of 7mm. This will allow it to bend around the top of the head whilst at the same time keeping a smooth profile on the surface in contact with the head. My dimensions are just a guess - adjust them all to give you the best result. Good luck with the project, Dave.
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Post by clausdk on Mar 14, 2010 19:06:34 GMT
Hi Claus, My suggestion for padding: a single piece of, say, 10mm thick, cut at regular 20mm intervals on the top face, as used, across the width, to a depth of 7mm. This will allow it to bend around the top of the head whilst at the same time keeping a smooth profile on the surface in contact with the head. My dimensions are just a guess - adjust them all to give you the best result. Good luck with the project, Dave. If I understand you correct, the foam will have a profile like a saw ?? I am not sure it is possible to glue the foam to the leather (and make it stick) like that, I am afraid it will break apart and be ugly and uncomfy. I was thinking more in the lines of making pockets for the foam (or what I find).. But I could cut the foam as a trapez and then make the same pattern, but making the leather go tight around something that soft, will be very difficult to do, at least with my limited abilities.. It is a great idea and I will try to see if it is something I can do, if it does become a succes I know whom to ship it to Thanks for your input
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2010 20:31:28 GMT
Hi Claus, The profile, when looked at from the front and back (as worn) would look like a saw but with the tops of all the teeth taken away. Because you would, I believe, be bending it round the top of the head, the leather strip on top would be under tension, (stretched) and so the saw tooth form would not be visible. Can I suggest that you do a temporary 'mock up' to assess the appearance. If the 'saw teeth' are noticeable you could try to make the incisions (cuts) perhaps only 5 or even 3 mm deep (in my example) and again assess the appearance. Hope this helps. Dave.
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Post by clausdk on Mar 14, 2010 20:55:03 GMT
Hi Claus, The profile, when looked at from the front and back (as worn) would look like a saw but with the tops of all the teeth taken away. Because you would, I believe, be bending it round the top of the head, the leather strip on top would be under tension, (stretched) and so the saw tooth form would not be visible. Can I suggest that you do a temporary 'mock up' to assess the appearance. If the 'saw teeth' are noticeable you could try to make the incisions (cuts) perhaps only 5 or even 3 mm deep (in my example) and again assess the appearance. Hope this helps. Dave. Ahh only the foam is like a saw, not the leather.. This way the padding won't bulk to the sides when used. Brilliant. I think I can get the same effect by just using pads of foam and make the pads reach toogether when bended. I was thinking you meant like this BTW the 340 uses aircussions.. I am not sure I have the time to anything today, my wife is tired of me sniffing glue while she is alone in bed ;D ;D
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