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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 4, 2010 23:05:07 GMT
I've loved them all, over the years, but my favourites (these days) are your common or garden ready salted types. Before "Walkers" walked all over the rest of the crisp industry my favourite brand was "Smiths".... a good old London based company that invented the "salt and shake" crisp..... they used to sell them in pubs in Cricklewood (London) and provided nifty salt shakers..... unfortunately, people used to steal the salt shakers from the pubs and Smiths came up with the salt in a blue bag concept which still carries on to this day in Walkers "salt and shake" crisps (Walkers bought Smiths out years ago). My second favourite was Golden Wonder (again, bought out by Walkers) their Cheese and onion crisps were second to none IMO..... the "Golden Wonder" cheese and onion that Walkers produce are AWFUL..... they taste like vomit..... it may say "Golden Wonder" on the packet but it's a Walker's production. I can't believe that I used to work next door to Smiths crisps back in the day.... Park Royal, London and all those women in there frying crisps..... it ALL started in London and these people were working for a good wage too..... God knows how it all transferred up to Leicester but, one thing's for certain, "Walkers" will NEVER be able to recreate that fantastic Smith's crisp Think about it...... post war London being served freshly fried crisps in their local pub with "Smiths" salt cellars on the table..... Oh how times have changed
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Post by insomniac on Mar 4, 2010 23:32:55 GMT
+1 for the Smiths salt and shake!
Just look at the ingredients: Potatoes, Sunflower Oil and Salt. None of this poly-glyceride-monosuterate-bi-testerone or whatever bullcrap they sprinkle on these days. Maybe not the same since the Walkers Monopoly but still well edible. Is it just me or have they started putting less salt in the little blue sachets?
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Post by matt7941 on Mar 5, 2010 0:42:34 GMT
No question, it has to be Seabrook's crinkle cut cheese and onion. Proper strong flavour and tasted like crisps should.
I've got to agree the Walker's takeover of the British crisp industry has put paid to so many good crisps, and Mike's right about Golden Wonder's cheese and onion R.I.P.
Does anyone know if Murphy's crisps are still in existence, or have they gone the same way as Smiths etc.? Their smoky bacon crisps were magnificent. If I remember correctly you never found them west of the Pennines, they seemed to be a Yorkshire crisp. The buffet on Huddersfield railway station had a particularly good selection if memory serves me correctly. I'm not sure, but they may have been responsible for the original Wheat Crunchies too.
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Post by derekrumble on Mar 5, 2010 11:27:40 GMT
I voted for Salt n Vinegar - but Marmite is a very close second; Marmite appears twice on your list man! The problem with today's crisps is that all the everyday kinds are cooked not only in sunflower oil, but a new kind of sunflower oil which is lower in saturated fat (if I understand correctly. No.2 son is in marketing with one of the major players so I'll ask him for more detail). This means that the texture is compromised just to give us a 'healthier' chip. The premium crisps like Kettle Chips or McCoys seem to be made using decent oil. I wonder what sort of oil was used back in the golden era of Smiths and Golden Wonder? Remember 'Chipmunk' crisps here in the UK back in the sixties? I believe they made OXO flavour. Take a look at this Flickr page: www.flickr.com/photos/xtinalamb/2339189934/Derek
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Post by derekrumble on Mar 5, 2010 11:30:16 GMT
From Wiki:
"They (Walkers) started frying their crisps in SunSeed oil, a variety of sunflower oil, claiming the oil's higher monounsaturated fat content made it healthier than the sunflower oil which they used previously."
I believe that other producers followed suit.
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Post by Will on Mar 5, 2010 11:50:19 GMT
Ive voted S&V, but if I was to go by memories and feelings, it would be the ready salted that I used to have at my grans, served with fresh cut bread, slathered with butter, to make a sandwich for supper.
Also, when I'm in Sheffield, I tend to buy a pack of Yorkshire Crisps Hendersons Sauce crisps, which are pretty good. Hendersons is a version of Worcester sauce.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 16:41:40 GMT
Anyone remember "Wheatos" ? Obviously a wheat snack rather than spud. They were formed into macaroni shapes and favourite flavours were spicy tomato, smokey bacon and worcester sauce. A close second was Monster Munch pickled onion flavour. Current faves and available in Spain, Pringles hot & spicy; Walkers ( dare I mention their name ) Sensations Thai sweet chili (surprisingly ;D) As a sideline, instead of prawn crackers we serve cassava crackers which are really goooood. (that's second, of course, when we can't get hold of the proper Thai crackers which are awesome!) Sideline 2. Another great product that disappeared was the fizzy drink "Quatro", four tropical flavours mixed together. My favourite of all time.
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Post by matt7941 on Mar 5, 2010 17:47:26 GMT
I think "Wheatos" were the "Wheat Crunchies" I was referring to in my previous post. They've probably had many different names but are still available, although they don't taste half as good as they used to. They don't seem to have as much flavour, is this a reduction in the amount of MSG they're allowed to use by EU law?
On the topic of long disappeared foodstuffs, whatever happened to "Pacers"? They were essentially a mint flavour opal fruit (sorry, Starburst) and they were superb. Always reminds me of York for some unknown reason.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 5, 2010 22:26:08 GMT
I put all this "healthy living" crap down to crisps not tasting the same these days..... those walkers things are like eating slices of crispy polystyrene (as are those Pringle efforts) what we need here is a GOOD quality oil, packed full of saturated fats, to fry the crisps in..... dare I say it but LARD would be the ultimate. I sometimes fry my own crisps in the deep fat fryer and have tested quite a few types of oil with LARD being, by far, the best for crispness and taste.... these polyunsaturated oils just don't have the "cling factor" necessary to make a good, tasty crisp.... crisp and "dry" maybe but no flavour. It's a pity that there are so many greedy, fat bastards out there these days that it has become necessary (or seemingly necessary, according to the health Gestapo) to bastardize tasty crisps to protect the health of these fat gluttons who don't know what "moderation" means. Same with "diet coke"..... you see these humongous wobblies (with their arse hanging out of their jogging pants) tucking into a large "bucket" of fried chicken and they think "healthy" means ordering a diet coke.... they are greedy, fat bastards and deserve to die from a massive coronary..... no "law" can stop gluttony. Thing is, we are "all" now tarred with the same brush and have to eat this "healthy living" crap so some fat, greedy pig doesn't end up sueing a company for his clogged arteries or puts in a claim when an "oily" crisp stains his jogging pants. The world's gone bonkers! Even the "flavours" have been altered (for the worst) because of these lily livered wankers complaining about "E" numbers...... nothing wrong with "E's" (in moderation) and bugger all wrong with monosodium glutamate (the Chinese have been using it for centuries and those buggers live till they're 400 years old!) "I've been eating MSG and Smith's crisps since I was a boy and they haven't done me any harm" says 394 year old Chinese rice farmer.... I think the only place you can get "full fat" crisps these days is places like Lidl and Aldi or maybe these "value" crisps from the other supermarket chains..... they're not "trendy / politically correct" crisps but they contain good old fashioned saturated fats.... perfectly "healthy" for fat bastards as long as they eat them as part of a "calorie controlled" diet and wash them down with diet free coke. What next.... a warning label? "eat crisps responsibly or you may die a sudden death you fat, unhealthy pig!" Hell, whilst I'm ranting, what the heck has happened to salted peanuts?! I remember when a salted peanut was a greasy, "tasty" affair.... these things, nowadays are dry and tasteless.... I think they must varnish the small amount of salt coating onto them with some sort of edible adhesive.... whatever happened to the greasy (FAT packed) peanut smothered in salt? We really are living in SHIT times my friends. I overheard a conversation between two schoolgirls at the bus stop this morning.... they were discussing dark chocolate V milk chocolate and one of them said "well.... dark chocolate is the healthy option"...... WHAT?!! The "healthy option" ?!!!!! what a crock of crap this generation is being brainwashed with..... no word of "taste" just this "healthy option" shite..... It's about time someone started a campaign for good old fashioned "tasty" food cooked the traditional way. In my day people died in their 50's from a massive coronary and were HAPPY! What's all this "prolonging life" crap about anyway? you live, you die..... as simple as that. If you want to spend your living years eating yoghurt, alfalfa sprouts and mung beans so be it but please don't force the rest of us to eat stuff that tastes like cardboard...... Team Full Fat
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Post by derekrumble on Jul 8, 2010 13:58:03 GMT
From Wiki: "They (Walkers) started frying their crisps in SunSeed oil, a variety of sunflower oil, claiming the oil's higher monounsaturated fat content made it healthier than the sunflower oil which they used previously." I believe that other producers followed suit. Derek Couldn't help but notice that crisps I bought on a Greek island recently tasted fantastically good. Could it be they are not bound by the same rules and guidelines we follow here in the UK? Surely not. Well I photographed the pack so you can see that the ingredients in the Greek version are a little more 'old-fashioned'. No SunSeed oil here; good old corn oil instead. And wait.... what's that....? MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE ? No wonder they tasted so good. I have had a pot of pure MSG on the go for years.... adds that certain something to stir frys and if your Sunday gravy is a little bland then a small pinch of MSG helps it on its way. Bought my MSG in a little Japanese deli in Shrewsbury ages ago. It's closed now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 14:12:17 GMT
Be careful with that stuff Derek! Especially if you are entertaining guests, some people have a nasty reaction to it.
For me I get splitting headaches and extreme thirst if more than the smallest pinch is used, if more I can be laid-up for a week with violent vomiting.
I avoid chinese restaurants here in Spain because they use so much of it. Under European law it is illegal to use it for customers dishes. We don't use any for our customers, though my wife consumes tons of it.
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Post by derekrumble on Jul 8, 2010 14:26:48 GMT
Be careful with that stuff Derek! Especially if you are entertaining guests, some people have a nasty reaction to it. For me I get splitting headaches and extreme thirst if more than the smallest pinch is used, if more I can be laid-up for a week with violent vomiting. I avoid chinese restaurants here in Spain because they use so much of it. Under European law it is illegal to use it for customers dishes. We don't use any for our customers, though my wife consumes tons of it. I'll get my coat......... ;-)
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jul 8, 2010 18:09:10 GMT
From Wiki: "They (Walkers) started frying their crisps in SunSeed oil, a variety of sunflower oil, claiming the oil's higher monounsaturated fat content made it healthier than the sunflower oil which they used previously." I believe that other producers followed suit. Derek Couldn't help but notice that crisps I bought on a Greek island recently tasted fantastically good. Could it be they are not bound by the same rules and guidelines we follow here in the UK? Surely not. Well I photographed the pack so you can see that the ingredients in the Greek version are a little more 'old-fashioned'. No SunSeed oil here; good old corn oil instead. And wait.... what's that....? MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE ? No wonder they tasted so good. I have had a pot of pure MSG on the go for years.... adds that certain something to stir frys and if your Sunday gravy is a little bland then a small pinch of MSG helps it on its way. Bought my MSG in a little Japanese deli in Shrewsbury ages ago. It's closed now. Awesome Derek! Nice find Crisps cooked in proper oil with a touch of MSG... you just can't beat those for flavour.
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Post by Z on Jul 8, 2010 20:02:27 GMT
any of it's better for you than Doritos. www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/monsantos-gmo-corn-linked_n_420365.html Monsanto's GMO Corn Linked To Organ Failure, Study Reveals Huffington Post | Katherine Goldstein/Gazelle Emami First Posted: 01-12-10 05:30 PM | Updated: 03-18-10 05:12 AM digg facebook Twitter stumble reddit del.ico.us What's Your Reaction? Inspiring Enlightening Infuriating Scary Helpful Amazing Innovative Adorable Read More: Food, Food Politics, Gilles-Eric Seralini, GMO Corn, Gmos, International Journal Of Biological Sciences, Monsanto, Monsanto Corn, Monsanto Corn Organ Damage, Monsanto Gm Corn, Monsanto Gmo Corn, National Food Safety, Study Links Monsanto Gm Corn To Organ Failure, The Global Report, Twilight Earth, University Of Caen, Green News Germany Gm Corn Get Green Alerts * Email * Comments 1,408 In a study released by the International Journal of Biological Sciences, analyzing the effects of genetically modified foods on mammalian health, researchers found that agricultural giant Monsanto's GM corn is linked to organ damage in rats. According to the study, which was summarized by Rady Ananda at Food Freedom, "Three varieties of Monsanto's GM corn - Mon 863, insecticide-producing Mon 810, and Roundup® herbicide-absorbing NK 603 - were approved for consumption by US, European and several other national food safety authorities." Monsanto gathered its own crude statistical data after conducting a 90-day study, even though chronic problems can rarely be found after 90 days, and concluded that the corn was safe for consumption. The stamp of approval may have been premature, however. In the conclusion of the IJBS study, researchers wrote: "Effects were mostly concentrated in kidney and liver function, the two major diet detoxification organs, but in detail differed with each GM type. In addition, some effects on heart, adrenal, spleen and blood cells were also frequently noted. As there normally exists sex differences in liver and kidney metabolism, the highly statistically significant disturbances in the function of these organs, seen between male and female rats, cannot be dismissed as biologically insignificant as has been proposed by others. We therefore conclude that our data strongly suggests that these GM maize varieties induce a state of hepatorenal toxicity....These substances have never before been an integral part of the human or animal diet and therefore their health consequences for those who consume them, especially over long time periods are currently unknown." Monsanto has immediately responded to the study, stating that the research is "based on faulty analytical methods and reasoning and do not call into question the safety findings for these products." The IJBS study's author Gilles-Eric Séralini responded to the Monsanto statement on the blog, Food Freedom, "Our study contradicts Monsanto conclusions because Monsanto systematically neglects significant health effects in mammals that are different in males and females eating GMOs, or not proportional to the dose. This is a very serious mistake, dramatic for public health. This is the major conclusion revealed by our work, the only careful reanalysis of Monsanto crude statistical data."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 21:32:47 GMT
My vote goes for Seabrook's Sea Salted - the best I've tasted for a long time, since I was a kid really.
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Post by Z on Jul 9, 2010 2:49:19 GMT
um, corn isn't in potato chips, mike.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2010 3:34:45 GMT
um, corn isn't in potato chips, mike. Neither does that post about Monsantos GM corn belong in a thread about Potato Crisps, and should be removed !
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Post by Z on Jul 9, 2010 4:26:41 GMT
it belongs. i was merely warning him not to eat doritos or any corn based crisp.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jul 9, 2010 9:40:39 GMT
it belongs. i was merely warning him not to eat doritos or any corn based crisp. I can't stand doritos... like eating crispy cardboard..... thank you for the warning "M", I will steer clear of corn based crisps from now on
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Post by leo on Jul 9, 2010 10:19:22 GMT
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Post by dean0 on Jul 9, 2010 18:47:35 GMT
salt & vinager disco's mmmmm
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Post by Will on Jul 9, 2010 19:10:01 GMT
I'll post these again, as they are worth hunting out if you are in Sheffield, www.yorkshire-crisps.co.uk/wp/?page_id=19 Very tasty. I also like those cooked in olive oil crisps you get in Spain, usually in clear bags, with a hint of salt. They always taste really potato-y.
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Post by elysion on Jul 9, 2010 21:00:40 GMT
Usually I'm not a typical crisps lover, but this forum has lead me into temptation. I bought these today: Nothing special with them. Just salted crisps from Pringles.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jul 9, 2010 21:03:23 GMT
Why is it that the once "common" good tasting crisp has now become a "specialised" market? The mass produced crisp used to taste excellent (remember Smith's crisps back in the 70's?)..... nowadays the crisp giants (Walkers) have gone all PC and are punting out these "crispy cardboard with a flavour coating" things.... zero "old school" oil, minimum of salt... "healthy eating" shite.
WHY bow to the pressures of the PC brigade?... salt and vinegar / cheese and onion crisps are part of our national heritage and we should be allowed to experience them at full flavour / full fat.... should we so desire.
If they want to go down the same silly road as the likes of Coca Cola and offer a "diet" version of a bag of crisps then so be it... we are being forced into eating tastless crap by fat people in the UK.... I, for one, would dance in the streets if the full fat crisp (with lashings of salt) was reintroduced to the mass market....
I don't like having to pay over the odds to these small "real crisps" companies when all the likes of Walkers / Golden Wonder have to do is go back to traditional frying methods and, TO HELL with the fat overeaters..... nobody is forcing a packet of crisps into your face you fat B stard!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jul 9, 2010 21:04:17 GMT
Usually I'm not a typical crisps lover, but this forum has lead me into temptation. I bought these today: Nothing special with them. Just salted crisps from Pringles. Cardboard with a tasty coating
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