Archiving-Digitizing

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Best way to store files ?

Eac Bitperfect storage wav files >foobar >spdif, asio >Auzentech Prelude >wolfson dual dacs >discrete buffer >adequate preamp and amp.

Allan
I would have thought that you are already doing that ?
Alex

[rickcr42]

I must confess the thought of "grabbing album art from the web" doesn't appeal to me, I'd much rather "grab" a CD off the shelf and just listen to it

Programs like Media Monkey and J.River free player will download the album art automatically if set up right so you can choose what to play by selecting the cover which I find easier than reading the title



www.mediamonkey.com/information/free/

[rickcr42]

Just installed mediamonkeyHmmmmmmmmSuppose I should use mp3, cutting edge

All my files are FLAC and I am using Media Monkey to play them so I have no clue what the "MP3" crack means.If you like Foobar fine but it is a damn lot of hands on work to get it to do ANYTHING but playback files while the media players have a much better GUI,album art,built in ripping and converting,iPod or other media player interfacing,pretty much everything you need for file play and/or ripping/converting.

Of course you guys HAVE mostly lost the intent here which is NOT digital-to-digital archiving which it is not since the medium already IS digital thus not volitile but ANALOG MEDIA ARCIVING to preserve and play music that is not and never will be on a CD or DVD yet of personal interest.

Some you can playback forever on your analog rig (if you have one) but some willbe so marginal in quality having been abused or so rare you don't want to chance harming the "master copy" you would rather digitize the original,make any needed changes (noise reduction,eq,expansion/compression,maybe add some reverb to a dry recording) then use the NEW digital copy as the one you listen to

Also.The "free" audio editor Audacity will not only do all the above,not only load other VST Plug-Ins with an interfacing program but can in a pinch also compensate for both 78's and RIAA LPs allowing one to in a pinch use a stright gain stage to provide the RAW GAIN externally (microphone preamp for instance or any other 40-50dB gain stage) and the decompensation internally though I have to say on the SQ front I have yet to hear a software based RIAA compensator I personally could live with no matter howe accurate it is in the plots-another one of those "measures well,sounds like shit" deals some claim does not exist

[rickcr42]

Also for archiving.....EAC to 16/44k1 wav "bit perfect of course".using dBpoweramp.As for upsampling...I let the SRC do it in hardware

There is recent evidence ALL the ripper programs are bit perfect with EAC only ruling in the damaged disc area because it constantly (and sometimes aggravatingly forever) keeps going back to get a good copy.

Upsampling maybe be fine for machine play but for burning a RBCD you want the exact opposite-a DOWNsampler and with it dither noise,also available in Audacity (BTW-a REALLY nice software upsampler is Voxengo's R8brain

www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/

BTW-A "true" high end media player/music server (not free) is here
www.sonicstudio.com/amarra/index.html

watch for a new version out soon (was shown at this years CES)

[rickcr42]

So what standard dbfs do we all use?

Some "light" reading

www.audioholics.com/education/audio-formats-technology/issues-with-0dbfs-levels-on-digital-audio-playback-systems

www.gearslutz.com/board/mastering-forum/333385-0dbfs.html

www.stereophile.com/features/396bits/index5.html

www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/2/26008.html

Test/Setup Files

www.pedjarogic.com/files/wav/

[robertkd]

mmm more input Steffane thanks

[rickcr42]

Jan 26, 2009 14:21:50 GMT robertkd said:

mmm more input Steffane thanks

www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/articles/qanda.htm

[rickcr42]

oh yeah,just to drive you all nuts there is also this:

"Play CDs and digital audio files (MP3, AAC/M4A, OGG, WMA*, MPC, APE, FLAC, WAV, etc.) with MediaMonkey, or use MediaMonkey to manage your library in conjunction with Winamp as the player. Adjust volume levels automatically (using Replay Gain and MP3 Gain technology), and fine-tune your audio using an equalizer and hundreds of available dsp audio-effect plug-ins."

so if you have a "problem" with the SQ of the MM engine you can always use it as a front end to Winamp....unless you think that too is lacking (I do not consiering it to sound at least as good as any other player I have listened to with the right plug-ins) then you are free to look elsewhere for the means to organize and play back your audio files though i think you would be hard pressed to find one as good and if you do even harder to better it,especially for FREE though things being what they are I guess most will choose iTunes-but don't expect FLAC playback

[derekrumble]

Jan 26, 2009 13:30:02 GMT rickcr42 said:

Just installed mediamonkeyHmmmmmmmmSuppose I should use mp3, cutting edge

All my files are FLAC and I am using Media Monkey to play them so I have no clue what the "MP3" crack means.If you like Foobar fine but it is a damn lot of hands on work to get it to do ANYTHING but playback files while the media players have a much better GUI,album art,built in ripping and converting,iPod or other media player interfacing,pretty much everything you need for file play and/or ripping/converting.

Of course you guys HAVE mostly lost the intent here which is NOT digital-to-digital archiving which it is not since the medium already IS digital thus not volitile but ANALOG MEDIA ARCIVING to preserve and play music that is not and never will be on a CD or DVD yet of personal interest.

Some you can playback forever on your analog rig (if you have one) but some willbe so marginal in quality having been abused or so rare you don't want to chance harming the "master copy" you would rather digitize the original,make any needed changes (noise reduction,eq,expansion/compression,maybe add some reverb to a dry recording) then use the NEW digital copy as the one you listen to

Also.The "free" audio editor Audacity will not only do all the above,not only load other VST Plug-Ins with an interfacing program but can in a pinch also compensate for both 78's and RIAA LPs allowing one to in a pinch use a stright gain stage to provide the RAW GAIN externally (microphone preamp for instance or any other 40-50dB gain stage) and the decompensation internally though I have to say on the SQ front I have yet to hear a software based RIAA compensator I personally could live with no matter howe accurate it is in the plots-another one of those "measures well,sounds like shit" deals some claim does not exist

Yes, I have always respected and used Audacity. I have Audition too which is supposed to be very good for up/downsampling.

But don't forget Nero's Wav Edit program which is often hidden away in your Nero directory (sorry... folder!). It has a very easy to use Graphic EQ.

Regards,

Derek

[charleyphogg]

I get uncompromissed music directly from the source. Pure. plain and simple. I also fully supprot the bands I ......get? Nothing can touch what is out there following those guide lines.