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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2007 5:10:30 GMT
It's OK really John, it is always really good to hear someone really happy with what they have found - much better than hearing whingeing and complaints. Your adulation of these has not been nearly as lavish as I have seen from other people describing other things, unfortunately, for me, I find that more believable. Have you tried phono stage direct into the Solo yet? I am finding the Reflex to be everything I want, just not very good at describing it, have a look at Davids recent post in the Reflex impressions thread, he says it very well. enjoy it all. Tony Hi Tony, just having fun. I have one record. One of my young, very enthusiastic employees bought me a copy of "Vincibus Eruptum" the first "Blue Cheer" LP. He knew that I was a Hipster from the 60's and saw this band at the famous "Grande" (pronounced Grandee) Ballroom in Detroit, from which Iggy Pop and the Stooges and the MC 5 played as the opening acts for other bands every Sat and Sun. They had a loudness sound-off with "The Frost" with Dick Wagner, guitarist, Lou Reed's guitarist on many albums. And, of course, I was there, getting sound bashed. So, after all of that, I don't have a record collection anymore. I am just a digital head case now. The old albums I had were not kept in good enough condition to keep anyways. Pizza, seeds, tobacco, seeds, ashes, seeds, etc., in the grooves, probably. Too many pops and crackles, and un-cleanable. I know I'm missing some great sounds, without a phono source, so, if I sell some stuff, my AKG-701's now that the W-5000's are the cans of choice, I could probably pop for the SL-1200 table, Graham's phono box, and a good cartridge, from KAB that I was turned on to earlier, here. Then I need to find a source for the software, the records! Aieeee! More money! Not many record stores around Detroit, anymore. Thanks Tony, I'll read the thread from David. John
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Post by mrarroyo on Oct 26, 2007 22:50:19 GMT
Everyone of you who has been talking about the ATH-W1000 I want you to know that I hate you! Specially you Mike. ;D Guess what showed up today? Bought it used for $300 delivered and it sounds and looks ... TBD. I want to put a couple of hundred hours of burn in. The original owner did not use them much.
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Post by capunk on Oct 29, 2007 14:25:57 GMT
Does anyone mention which amp is suit W1000 the best? But I have tried Green Solo combined with W1000, and the result is astonishing. How about W5K? does that headphone only match with it's sibling? HA5000?
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Post by DennyL on Oct 29, 2007 16:35:28 GMT
Does anyone mention which amp is suit W1000 the best? There are quite a few people who think that the W1000s with the Yamamoto HA-02 is a match made in heaven.
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Post by bozzy on Nov 2, 2007 0:22:06 GMT
As you might have seen on the GS1000 Boy Racer thread I recently temporarily supplemented my Grado GS 1000's with At W1000's, in the hope that they would be a permanent replacement.
For me, they are getting better and better. So much so that I'd now love to hear what the W5000's that the Johsan likes so well are all about, but I wonder how you guys find the W1000's? I suggested that mine showed a little glare and grain, but they now seem to have lost even that, and I swear the imaging is getting better every day. My problem is that my amp is the green Solo, which is also fairly recent, and this also continues to display frequent subtle, but definitely audible improvements.
The AT's show a remarkable sound stage now, and from closed back phones! Not what I expected at all.
Unfortunately, although I'd really like to say something nice about the Grado's, I think they are a country mile off flat response, and pack the inherent interest of drying paint.
My son, who seems to spend his life either balancing systems or writing software audio filters, is much better and more experienced with cans than I am, and he reckons that the Grado's are actually very good if you can "get in there with them", but they are laid so far back that the overall effect is poor, as I found out for myself.
The interesting thing is that he has the skill to shut out or subdue what he does not want to concentrate on, but has only about 30% hearing in one ear, and about 80% in the other, after a childhood meningitis. I have good hearing in both ears, and any damage has been self inflicted - but I lack the skill to listen as selectively as he does. This is not just proud father syndrome -he repeatedly demonstrates the ability to setup a Xover on a sub, or to tune the reflections out of difficult spaces.
By comparison he finds the AT's are NOT perfect, just perhaps the best compromise he has heard to date. I find them excellent, but I am pressed to isolate ANYTHING that I think is poor about their delivery, and I'd be interested to know how they have worked out for you. Like I say, the image is now something else too - WAY better than I have ever heard from headphones. They positively thrive on tricky female vocals too - very easy and relaxing to listen too - no shriek or glare at all - Joni's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" Alison Krauss, Eva Cassidy, Alice Russell, Kiri Te Kanawa, Lucia Popp, Sarah McLachlan, the list goes on. They seem to match the green Solo very well.
Anyone else finding similar with the AT's, particularly the soundstage/imaging capabilities.
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Post by mrarroyo on Nov 2, 2007 1:13:23 GMT
The W1000 I bought were use, however they had very little use so when I received them they sounded kind of veiled and congested. I was going to wait till 200 hours of burn in but I decide to give a taste. These cans are very detailed, clear, and w/ superb imaging and soundstage. The only area the sound could be improved is in the bass, at first I thought they lacked a lot of punch. In that respect I was wrong, as they have burned in the bass has surfaced. It is not an overpowering bass but instead it is an "elegant" bass. I just did a quick side by side w/ the HD580 (modded w/ the HD600 grills and the HD650 cable). The AT is open, clear, detailed, with great instrument presentation/separation and amazing micro detail. On the other hand the HD580 is dull, veiled, and w/ almost no instument separation. The amp used was the Green Solo w/ the X-Dac V3 as the source using Apple Lossless files.
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Post by fanboi on Nov 2, 2007 7:30:00 GMT
Does anyone mention which amp is suit W1000 the best? But I have tried Green Solo combined with W1000, and the result is astonishing. How about W5K? does that headphone only match with it's sibling? HA5000? Capunk, I might just know whose green Solo and W1000 you listened to The Solo only had around 100 hours up at that time and is now up around 350 hours so, from Miguels experience, still a way to go. My initial impression was that the Solo likes these and vice versa. I noted a delicacy of touch in the presentation of voices and their inflections that these phones were responsive enough to show. I think that Miguel has noted something similar in his latest update on the Solo as it approaches 500 hrs. WRT the W5000, johnsan on this forum, is enraptured with the combination with the green Solo and his Solo would be fully burned in by now I think. As to the best amp for them, I bought them to go with a yammy and they work well with it, since the Solo is not ready yet I have not done more than a cursory comparison. As dennyl mentioned, many find those two to be an ideal combo and equally as many seem to like the W5000 with the yammy.
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Post by minivan on Nov 2, 2007 8:54:08 GMT
fanboi: u have a yammy?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 2, 2007 9:50:04 GMT
Anyone else finding similar with the AT's, particularly the soundstage/imaging capabilities?. Oh yes! The sheer width of the soundstage is great for a headphone and nothing short of incredible for a closed back 'phone. I've had mine for a good few weeks now and, like you, noticed a slight degree of graininess and the occasional glare but now the 'phones have a few more miles on them that has passed. They are now very open sounding (ie: the clarity is wonderful with air around the individual instrumnets / performers) and the bass has certainly taken a turn for the better now the pads have started to bed into my ears. Have any of you tried the "gently push both earcups in toward your ears with your index finger" trick? If you do this, very gently, you'll notice the bass becomes richer..... well, as the pads breakdown / bed in around your ears the drivers, in turn, will shift slightly closer to your ears and the sound will become richer and mellifluous, this is what I have found anyway. All new headphones sound slightly spitty and tight from new, work those drivers and relax those pads for a few months and they sound totally different. W1000 are getting better week by week, I'm very happy to own a pair
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 11:36:48 GMT
I was fortunate enough to hear Fanboi's W1000s through my system recently, and was mightily impressed. I had never realised how seductive Diana Krall could sound, either. I completely agree with the comments about the sheer width of the soundstage, and the air around the individual instruments/performers. I would have ordered a pair the next day, but my bloody washing machine carked it that morning . I definitely intend getting a pair. SandyK
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Post by mrarroyo on Nov 2, 2007 13:17:21 GMT
Alex, wearing dirty and smelly clothing while owning a W1000 is better than clean and smelling "pretty" w/ no W1000. ?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 2, 2007 14:39:06 GMT
Alex, wearing dirty and smelly clothing while owning a W1000 is better than clean and smelling "pretty" w/ no W1000. ? He could always listen in the nude, as long as he has hot water and soap he won't smell.... clothes are sooooo last century. Team - Naked listening.
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Post by toad on Nov 2, 2007 18:20:51 GMT
I'd love to give the W1000s a go but my next spend is a green solo for home followed by some cheap cans for work. Besides my HD595s are fantastic to my ears. From now on I'm dubbing them the poor mans W1000s due to xerxes earlier comments He hates them, I love them. Mine are not the older 120 ohm stock though. I'm surprised that hardly anyone here has 595s as for £75-£100 they are an excellent can. They are little light on bass compared to most cans but I'm not a basshead so I love them. It's there but not in your face. Female vocals and orchestral music is nothing short of beautiful on these.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 5:27:10 GMT
Enraptured I am, young Skywalker.
And the W-5000's have the patented Permendur magnet structure. I googled that name and it's a patented magnet structure designed to reduce magnetic leakage. Whooeee! Can't hurt.
When I read about the kind of money being spent on headphone amps and headphones, thousands and thousands of dollars, I am so very glad to have happened along to this forum on an X-cans mod search, and found this group of so-helpful souls, and the offer to partake in purchasing a Slee Solo Green amplifier, at a very modest price. Then, to sell a lot of my stuff and buy the ATH-W5000's. It doesn't matter what I play through this system, I'm enraptured (thanks Tony, my word for the day). I feel I've got the best, for a lot less than thousands and thousands.
Try it, you'll like it.
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Post by rowuk on Nov 5, 2007 14:05:11 GMT
do we get stains when magnets leak? Features like this are seldom interesting to me as they seldom amount to anything special. If the cans sound good, then it doesn't matter, we can't exchange or modify magnets anyway!
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Post by fanboi on Nov 5, 2007 19:53:34 GMT
do we get stains when magnets leak? Features like this are seldom interesting to me as they seldom amount to anything special. If the cans sound good, then it doesn't matter, we can't exchange or modify magnets anyway! Sounds a tad peevish chum, having a bad air day?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 23:56:21 GMT
do we get stains when magnets leak? Features like this are seldom interesting to me as they seldom amount to anything special. If the cans sound good, then it doesn't matter, we can't exchange or modify magnets anyway! I don't know, some like to diseminate this kind of stuff and some don't. If there is interest in Permendur voice coil magnet structure, it's on the web. On the web also, is a Korean company, Dowumi, that makes headphones that vibrate the chin bone and thus presenting sound (music) to the ear. Check it out on their website, dowumi.com. I am open to all and closed to none. Bring it on. John
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Post by jluecking on Nov 9, 2007 17:02:24 GMT
Hi,
I just want to mention that I received the W5000 replacement pads and they fit perfectly on the W10VTG and they are very comfortable.
By the way, they sound so good with the Solo.
Regards Joachim
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Post by slwiser on Nov 9, 2007 17:26:38 GMT
I have had the W1000 and the W5000 and both were very good. I had the W5000 with the matching HA5000 amp. I now have moved over to the Ultrasone Edition 9 feed by the Lavry DA10 into the Yamamoto HA-02. This is the best sound I have heard from my equipment. I have always enjoy everything I have owned so that says something for those earlier pieces. I wish I had heard the W1000 with the Yamamoto but they left the house last year. I now have another ATH can and it is the ATH-ESW9. If find this sounding much like the W5000 without its massive soundstage. It is only 170 grains in weight and so tiny in size but they sound so good for a don't match the sound of the UE9 in many ways. Still very enjoyable.
Bottom line is that the W1000 is one very fine headphone, great sound and very comfortable while looking great.
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Post by minivan on Nov 11, 2007 7:58:35 GMT
slwiser: is the esw9 closer to the w5000 or the w1000? in that case, in your own opinion, is that mean the esw9 is better then the w1000. i am interested in getting one, the esw9 is cheaper then the w1000 in pricejapan.com
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Post by slwiser on Nov 11, 2007 11:08:31 GMT
Except for the width of the soundstage I would say the W5000 in everything else when being compared with the W1000. Maybe the ESW9 even has a slightly better timbre in the mid frequencies. This evaluation has to be taken with a grain of salt since I no longer have the W5000 to compare directly. I have compared the ESW9 with my UE9 and the UE9 with the W5000 both extensively. The ESW9 has a very similar timber to the UE9 in the mid-frequencies. Both the W5000 and UE9 are great headphones and get even better with the right amplification. The ATH-ESW9 is less than a week old and is maturing into even a better headphone than my first initial impressions. The width of the sound image is getting a bit wider but sill nothing like the UE9 which was smaller but more precise image width than the W5000.
The ATH-ESW9 has to be one of the best portables out there now.
Given all that I enjoyed the W1000 when I had them and now would have loved to have matched the W1000 with the HA-02 since the W1000 is the headphone that the Yamamoto HA-02 is supposed to be used for shaping its sound.
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Post by fanboi on Nov 11, 2007 11:49:52 GMT
I would draw attention to the fact that the ESW9 are AFAIK a supra-aural HP as contrasted to the circum-aural W1000 and W5000. This may be of no significance to some, but as a spectacle wearer, my previous experience with supra-aural HP was not good, I found them to press my ears against my spectacle frames, with discomfort noticeable quite quickly and were not suitable for use, for me, for more than 5 or 10 minutes at a time. The circum-aural type I find I can wear for extended periods for little or no discomfort.
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Post by minivan on Nov 13, 2007 7:58:13 GMT
soulmate for my yamamoto ha-2 headmp, the w5000 arrive today initial impression of the w5000 on the yamamoto in compare to the k701 is: better detail, music sound more refined and realistic.
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Post by slwiser on Nov 13, 2007 9:52:15 GMT
minivan
Enjoy....
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Post by minivan on Nov 13, 2007 10:13:06 GMT
thanks slwiser , i am enjoying it now the w5000 is so revealing,i can hear some of the harshness in the high, the last thing for me to do now is upgrade my source and i will be almost done.
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