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Post by Nigel on Feb 18, 2014 16:52:12 GMT
I'm thinking of those studio tracks that pushed the boundaries. Songs over twenty minutes, or the whole side of an LP. Predominately prog I guess, especially in the rock genre. What are your faves?
ELP - Karn Evil 9 Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (actually two sides of an LP and over forty minutes long) Pink Floyd - Echoes Genesis - Suppers Ready Yes - The Gates Of Delirium
All spring fondly to mind.
The longest track I have ever heard, or even come across for that matter, is Transatlantic's - The Whirlwind clocking in at a massive 77 mins. 50 odd secs. Isn't that the virtual maximum duration for a compact disc anyway? Not east to beat then in that case.
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Post by alex30 on Mar 21, 2014 14:50:41 GMT
Richard Branson would look no further than Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells. Released in 1973 it is credited with being the first album released by Virgin Records, although two other albums were released by the label on that same day. Quite a few labels had turned Oldfield down saying the piece was unmarketable due to it's length but Branson's instinct was handsomely repaid by the albums enduring success. Branson gave Oldfield a free hand allowing him to buy in all of the instruments required to play the piece and to have extensive use of his Manor Studio. Oldfield used the then little utilised technique of recording each instrument on it's own track and then layering them together. Although very common now this was rare at the time. Of course, as Oldfield played most , but not all , of the instruments on the record it was the only way he could do things. By the way side one is credited as being 25 min 30 sec and side two, which is a continuation is 23 min 20 sec long.
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Post by Nigel on Mar 22, 2014 9:26:04 GMT
There was a documentary on Mike Oldfield's classic album on BBC4 yesterday evening. I suspect it was a repeat, I'm sure I watched it last year. Oldfield seems to remake the record periodically.....
"The following year the piece was orchestrated by David Bedford for The Orchestral Tubular Bells version. It had three sequels in the 1990s, Tubular Bells II (1992), Tubular Bells III (1998) and The Millennium Bell (1999). Finally, the album was re-recorded as Tubular Bells 2003 at its 30th anniversary in 2003. A newly mastered and mixed re-issue of the original album appeared in 2009 on Mercury Records, with bonus material."
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Post by alex30 on Mar 22, 2014 10:26:15 GMT
Hi Nigel, How do you rate Tubular Bells ? I have somewhat mixed feelings about it. Whilst I can listen to it occasionally I do feel that some of it's success came down to the unique way that it was put together and it became fashionable to rave about it. I remember it being talked about a lot at the time. Then again it is an interesting listen and Oldfield demonstrated an unusual talent. Still it doesn't grab me by the throat and stir up my emotions , being more of an easy listening piece for me.
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Post by jc on Mar 22, 2014 13:40:27 GMT
I was listening to the original TB just the other day, most of it still stands up very well, though I always found the narrative introducing the instruments a tad annoying, "and finally, tu-bu-lar bells!"
Oh, and how about Dream Theater's "Scenes From A Memory", that's in the same ball park as Transatlantic's The Whirlwind.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 22, 2014 19:29:03 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 22, 2014 22:19:49 GMT
By the way..... I am not saying that "Rainbow in curved air" is GOOD but it is certainly LONG.
A true pioneer of the long dirge who was an inspiration for the "Who".
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 22, 2014 22:31:10 GMT
There was a really boring old bastard called "Beethoven".... his symphony number "NINE" lasted over an HOUR!
What was he thinking of? No drum and bass? He really didn't have a clue did he?
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 22, 2014 22:38:55 GMT
Absolutely entrancing and emotionally stirring by the way..... (Beethoven) total class and STILL years ahead of his time.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 22, 2014 23:44:58 GMT
Terry Riley is the Godfather of "prog" / "electro" yada yada and very few people realise that. What he did in the 1960's was what Beethoven did in the dark ages.... Terry Riley is the man
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Post by Nigel on Mar 23, 2014 1:22:28 GMT
Hi Alex30,
Tubular Bells? Mmm. Personally, I don't consider it a masterpiece but I would rate it as very good. I actually prefer Onmmadawn. It makes a more emotional connection, with me anyway. I caught him in concert, Manchester, on the Platinum tour.
Hi Mike,
I'm aware of A Rainbow in Curved Air but have to admit, I've never heard it, will check it out for sure.
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Post by Crispy on Mar 23, 2014 19:08:31 GMT
There was a really boring old bastard called "Beethoven".... his symphony number "NINE" lasted over an HOUR! What was he thinking of? No drum and bass? He really didn't have a clue did he? No idea whatsoever eh Mike (LOL) how about 22 minutes of Genesis - Suppers Ready with a bearded Phil Collins?
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Post by alex30 on Mar 23, 2014 20:19:19 GMT
There was a really boring old bastard called "Beethoven".... his symphony number "NINE" lasted over an HOUR! What was he thinking of? No drum and bass? He really didn't have a clue did he? OH COME ON NOW !!! Although my main diet is blues, closely followed by contemporary folk I just love Beethoven's Ninth for it's developing theme , especially the fourth movement - The Choral. It was the film The Clockwork orange that introduced me to this symphony and I have loved it ever since. I know you do too (lol)
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 23, 2014 22:31:35 GMT
There was a really boring old bastard called "Beethoven".... his symphony number "NINE" lasted over an HOUR! What was he thinking of? No drum and bass? He really didn't have a clue did he? OH COME ON NOW !!! Although my main diet is blues, closely followed by contemporary folk I just love Beethoven's Ninth for it's developing theme , especially the fourth movement - The Choral. It was the film The Clockwork orange that introduced me to this symphony and I have loved it ever since. I know you do too (lol) Totally love it Alex, I was being a tad "controversial" and tongue in cheek Mike.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 23, 2014 22:34:52 GMT
There was a really boring old bastard called "Beethoven".... his symphony number "NINE" lasted over an HOUR! What was he thinking of? No drum and bass? He really didn't have a clue did he? No idea whatsoever eh Mike (LOL) how about 22 minutes of Genesis - Suppers Ready with a bearded Phil Collins? You got my "humour"
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Post by PinkFloyd on Mar 23, 2014 23:24:02 GMT
Tangerine dream tended to make a meal / elongate their "creations"
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Post by alex30 on Mar 24, 2014 17:08:19 GMT
OH COME ON NOW !!! Although my main diet is blues, closely followed by contemporary folk I just love Beethoven's Ninth for it's developing theme , especially the fourth movement - The Choral. It was the film The Clockwork orange that introduced me to this symphony and I have loved it ever since. I know you do too (lol) Totally love it Alex, I was being a tad "controversial" and tongue in cheek Mike. Yes Mike, I did get that ,mainly because I could actually see the bulge in the side of your face !(lol) Being serious it is a magnificent piece and I have three versions. One (the best) by The London Philly, a substandard one by The Berlin Philly and rather a good DVD of the Paris Philly giving a concert. I do love though, the version of the Fourth Movement that features in A Clockwork Orange. It brought the piece bang up to date and is well worth tracking down if you haven't heard it.
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