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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2012 17:44:59 GMT
I've been sent a Twister Quad to try and I must say, it's an impressive flier!! I have the Blade MQX which retails and double the price of the Twister. However, imo the Twister is a bargain. Around £45 with transmitter and is really smooth to fly. The canopy looks really impressive and they even have spare blades and a spare canopy in the box. I put the spare canopy onto the MQX. Much nicer looking. The biggest difference between the Blade and the Twister is the Blade will continue moving when you let go of the sticks until you give an opposite command. The Twister stops immediately when you let go of the sticks. This makes it easier to control. At 100% rates, it goes into the sky quite fast and you can easily flip it over. You just push the forward stick fully forwards fast and then let go. The Quad turns over and returns to hover. The MQX does the same, but it can be difficult to hold still. However, the Blade is FAST!! Both good, but the Twister is a fantastic (self) Christmas present for anyone wanting to try flying a nice easy machine that progresses to more advanced things like flips by changing the rates. It goes from 20% to 40, to 60 and then to 100% At 100% it's really fast and good for outdoors. (as long as you're confident) Buy the wife one for Christmas. She'd love it!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 16:46:27 GMT
I took the Twister out today for a night flight!! This quad is absolutely stunning. It's as slow as you want it to be indoors since at 20%, it is a beginners machine. Outside at 60%, it's damned fast. It shot off like a rocket and I put it up between 50 and 100 feet, switched to 100% and then did flip after flip. The quad flips over and loops with no problems whatsoever. In fact, the speed can be quite disconcerting since it builds until before you know it, it's a long way away. However, not a big problem since it has quite a large pointy body, so it's very easy to see which way it's pointing and it came straight home again. I wouldn't recommend a beginner to put it at 60 or 100% though, since it is then a bit trickier to fly but not a problem for me now I've flown so many. It got dark, so I switched its lights on. Two white lights at the front and red and blue flashing lights at the back. I could continue flying until it was pitch black and only had to come in because it was cold. I could flip it up in the sky without even seeing it, just watching those lights and again could bring it home easily since the white lights stand out and you have a clear idea of orientation. The only thing about night flying is judging how high it is. I think I sent it up a hell of a long way and then got it to shoot across the sky above the house. This is a bargain heli at £45 with transmitter and charger. It flies really well and looks great. The lights are fantastic for getting orientation right and I think it makes a really good learning machine. Certainly at 60 or 100%, it becomes more of a 'danger' machine and you could then easily move on to a CP heli afterwards if you wanted. It's a hoot to fly and slightly easier than the Blade MQX at high rates. Personally, I think it looks better and it has the same motors and frame as the Blade. I can't stop flying this one!! www.pegasusmodels.co.uk/product.asp?type=&searchtxt=twister%20quad&prodid=1003283
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Post by leo on Dec 22, 2012 15:05:22 GMT
Nice review Ian, I've been looking around at these Quad-copters. Theres loads of the bloody things to choose from so these reviews are very helpful. I first seen one of those tiny Hubsan x4's but seems they may have reliability issues? I then seen the WLToys W929 which are a little larger but supposed to be easy to fly. The W929 looks just like the quad twister but different canopy .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 16:13:46 GMT
Also Leo, there's a V949 I think which is a copy of the Twister. I've had a good run with this one now and I REALLY like it a lot. It flies pretty well outside which is what I enjoy more than anything. I've flown this one high in cross winds and it's been blown all over the place, but I am able to control it and get it back in one piece. It's easier to fly than the MQx and half the price. The nice thing about getting it up in the sky is that you can send it off really fast without the ground getting in the way!! It moves like a rocket but also stops quickly. The flips you see on the video are easy to do and it's a tough little beggar. If you are a beginner, it's very reassuring to know that if you just centre the sticks (or let go) the quad stops and hovers. (Unless the wind blows it) That's a useful get out if she goes out of control. I found two of the rotors a bit tight down onto the motor spindles so I pushed them all down tight and then got a fingernail thickness of slack between the body and the props so they spin really freely with no friction but aren't too loose so that it doesn't fly straight. The result is that it flies even better and the battery goes for longer. I do like these quads. They're stable (Like a coax heli) but really fast. The MQx is frighteningly fast. What is funny is if you head into the wind, they lift alarmingly fast and you suddenly find your Quad somewhere up in the sky!! I wouldn't recommend a beginner doing that because it can be difficult to get the to come back!!! I take two out with me at a time so while one is cooling off from a flight, the other one is flying, so you don't have to worry about motors getting hot and you can just continue flying. I also keep helis in twos for the same reason. The Twister is cheap though and well worth the money. If you get one, buy loads of batteries!!! It's a funny thing for an 'old boy' to do I guess, but it is really relaxing and gets you out into the fresh air. It's a really liberating experience to fly helis outdoors but you have to be careful of people and objects that could get damaged. I have two Blade MSRx's and they are extremely fast although they are very small. Fantastic to hurtle around the sky and they've been ducking and diving for a year now. Fairly difficult to fly, but boy do they move. I've worn parts out over and over again on them and so the helis I'm flying are no longer the originals really, except for the boards and main frame. I must admit, I would now like to fly a bigger heli and a big quad if I could get one cheap enough. One quad I've been looking at goes at over £200 but it can carry a proper camera and I was wondering about having a video camera send a picture back to me to some glasses, so I'm in effect, piloting from the Quad itself. Anyway, the Twister is a really good start.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 22, 2012 16:25:41 GMT
You wanna see "outdoors" up here today Ian.... lashing rain and gale force winds (almost pitch black all day too!)..... erm, if I let one of those things loose up here it would end up in the Shetlands Nice looking machine though, I may buy one when I move to the Canary Isles
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Post by leo on Dec 22, 2012 16:34:50 GMT
Thanks for the advice Ian, much appreciated Being a beginner the Twister looks ideal so I'll get one of these. It doesn't look too big so should be ok for the yard until I get time to take it somewhere with more space . Good idea regarding batteries, I'll have a bunch of those charged and take it somewhere like clumber park. I see folks strapping those key fob sized 808 #16 camera's onto them. Must say I can't remember seeing anything like these small quad-copters the other year especially for such a low price.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 16:35:51 GMT
It's bad down here too Mike. Lashing rain. I just fly little coax helis and the MSRx's indoors. I can control them pretty easily now. They take a lot of learning. You need a big room though because they're so fast.
The Twister is perfect indoors at 20%. (or 40%) It's very stable like a coax and would be good with a mini digital camera on board to video from up there.
Actually, the Twister is easier indoors than the MQx because it stays still if you let go of the sticks. The MQx just continues on its merry way, very like a CP heli does.
I fly the Twister in the garden at night as well. That's when it's lovely and calm and the lights on it are fine for working out where it's going. It's a bit weird in the night when you see two white eyes and flashing blue and red ones on the back. Up in the sky, it's easy to work out which way it's heading.
Good job I don't have neighbours. They'd think I'm mental!!!
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Post by leo on Dec 22, 2012 16:41:57 GMT
You wanna see "outdoors" up here today Ian.... lashing rain and gale force winds (almost pitch black all day too!)..... erm, if I let one of those things loose up here it would end up in the Shetlands Nice looking machine though, I may buy one when I move to the Canary Isles Been crappy down here but not half as bad as you've had it up there, just the usual rain and more rain. Its that time for more indoor hobbies
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 22, 2012 17:47:08 GMT
I don't mind the snow..... "crisp and even" and all that lark but these gale force winds and lashing rain are a real pain in the arse especially when your windscreen wipers fail! I was coming back from town a couple of weeks back, it was LASHING down, and my blasted windscreen wipers stopped wiping I couldn't see where I was going so stopped the car, faffed about a bit fiddling with the windscreen wiper switch but NOTHING..... crawled home @ about 15MPH with my face right up against the windscreen..... Anyhoo, turns out one of the rods from the motor had dropped off (the ball joint had worn) so cost me £29 for a new set..... a simple case of removing the wiper arms, stripping off the plastic cowl to gain access to the wiping mechanism.... remove the motor and all linkages, replace old linkages with new and refit all.... what a bloody palaver! Anyhoo..... it's all working again so I'm good to go in the lashing rain and gales.... aquaplane city here ATM but all good fun, lucky I bought an entire new set of tyres last month so plenty of water dispersing "grooves" on them Sorry for veering off topic Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 22, 2012 17:58:05 GMT
There were a few 100 foot waves reported along in Wick the other day: I witnessed a few 80 footers last year down at my local beach and was nearly swept out to sea filming them
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 18:41:32 GMT
Mike, maybe you bought the wrong twister quad
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 19:35:59 GMT
Strewth!! I don't think the Twister would last in that lot. Made me sea sick watching it.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Dec 22, 2012 21:33:13 GMT
Strewth!! I don't think the Twister would last in that lot. Made me sea sick watching it. You'd need a Twanker (not a twister) to endure those waves "what's that idiot doing?" He's "twanking over the waves" Sorry, but I found that funny for some obscure reason
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 21:37:54 GMT
I've often thought about combining fishing with an rc boat, where I put the tackle in the back of the boat, drive it out a couple of hundred yards, drop the bait and bring the boat back.
Now that would be useful because hurling out your bait 100 plus yards takes some doing!!
That often twanks my muscles.
Perhaps a submarine might be better in Scotland or an RC Killer Whale for the tourists.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 22:54:01 GMT
Ian You don't need an RC boat. It wouldn't last long in those waters. You need a big RC aeroplane with onboard camera and grappling hooks to swoop down on the big fish like a bird of prey! ;D Alex
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2012 9:09:19 GMT
Ian You don't need an RC boat. It wouldn't last long in those waters. You need a big RC aeroplane with onboard camera and grappling hooks to swoop down on the big fish like a bird of prey! ;D Alex An rc sub with torpedoes? Actually, a sub with an onboard video camera would be a bit of fun. Go down and look at fish if it were light enough down there!! If I can't catch them, I might as well look. Or a sub with a downward looking camera so I can see where the fish actually are. Save wasting time waiting for the beggars. Last year, I caught a dogfish (a mini type of shark) on a pier and had to take it for a dog walk up the pier to get it to the beach. I couldn't lift it out of the water at the end of the pier!!
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Post by leo on Jan 21, 2013 21:30:44 GMT
Got the Twister quad and a couple of spare 550mA batteries, not had time to have a play yet though .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 21:38:45 GMT
It's one of my favourites, Leo. Just give yourself room and slow wind the throttle up. It hovers beautifully.
If you use 20% rates indoors, it might be a bit hard to hold. I find 40% better indoors, but go easy with the stick.
Outdoors, I use 60% and then once in the air - 100% and it flips so easily it's unbelievable.
It's also a great bargain if you have (like me) an MQx which is a posher quad. The spare canopy fits it so I have two Twisters, except one is a Blade.
I have a lot of fun with the Twister in the garden. It moves pretty fast if you want it to and it darts about in slight winds giving me more of a hands on experience, but you need to be quick and very accustomed to holding them if there's wind outside.
IMO, it's a really good value quad.
Fly your batteries to about 6 or 7 minutes. Don't take them to the limit or else they die quicker. I also charge mine at a slow rate. You're not really supposed to go over 80% discharge.
This thing will have you buying a big heli for kicks......
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Post by leo on Jan 21, 2013 21:57:32 GMT
Thanks Ian, I'm quite looking forward to giving this thing a go. My youngest cat would go nuts if I tried it in the house so must try and resist until the weekend when I can take it outdoors somewhere if the weather allows it. For the money these things look great value, they look ideal for a novice . I'll post how I get on, hopefully I won't wreck it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 15:09:00 GMT
Tiny stick movements is the answer ......
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2013 20:44:52 GMT
It was a lovely calm day today so I took my Twister Quad outdoors for a spin. This little puppy is a piece of cake to fly, it really is..... I fired her up 100 feet into the air on 40% and then cranked her up to 100% once she was in clear air.... full throttle, full forwards, let her rip! Whoah! NICE turn of speed, she was zooming about like a mini rocket! Impressive and VERY stable / easy to keep hold of up there..... I zoomed her down really sharpish for a fly past and I swear she flew past me screaming at a good 50 MPH, pretty much a pocket rocket this thing! Took her up again to about 50 feet and did a flip.... liked it so did another one, and another one.... stable as f@ck, no blade clatter to worry about just pile the power on and let her rock and roll! When I brought her in for landing I noticed that the canopy had started to come off, this was due to the extreme speed and flips.... I would recommend flying without the canopy if you're going to do mid air stunts.... canopy is fine indoors on 40% but once you crank her up to 100% and start throwing her about the place at speed it can work a bit loose..... the lift speed is pretty damned good too.... I notched her onto 100% on the ground and then WHACKED the stick to the end stop, she went up like a clay pigeon on steroids! Zero to 100 feet in the blink of an eye! Yeeeehaw!
I tell you guys, sod all this hovering shite...... fire her straight up into the sky on 100% setting and take it from there.... when she's up there, there's nothing to crash into..... if you're not too confident then notch her down to 40% for landing. I feel so confident with the Twister outdoors, it makes coax and single blade helicopters look stupid the way it just cuts through the air at speed... I reckon you could even fly this with a slight breeze going down.... well worth the money and pretty much bullet proof as long as you don't crash.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 21:12:57 GMT
There you go - a coax on steroids!! I'm glad you've found something you like, Mike.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Feb 17, 2013 21:33:52 GMT
There you go - a coax on steroids!! I'm glad you've found something you like, Mike. I'm building my own quadcopter from scratch...... 6 motors...... more details to appear soon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 7:30:20 GMT
They do look pretty crude, therefore maybe simple to build, Mike? I must admit, the idea of a big 'un is REALLY attractive since they fly so amazingly well. I took the Twister out yesterday and you're right - up in the sky, push forwards on 100% and just hold on ........ boy, it goes. I'm sure Sam would become a convert once he got his hands on one himself!! I meant to say - the idea of a 'spy' camera is to enable you to put goggles on and fly from the cockpit in a virtual reality. Imagine ripping across the sky and feeling like you're in it!! What about a dustbin lid size? Looking like a spaceship?
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Post by cyclicpete on Feb 18, 2013 21:23:19 GMT
They do look pretty crude, therefore maybe simple to build, Mike? I must admit, the idea of a big 'un is REALLY attractive since they fly so amazingly well. I took the Twister out yesterday and you're right - up in the sky, push forwards on 100% and just hold on ........ boy, it goes. I'm sure Sam would become a convert once he got his hands on one himself!! I meant to say - the idea of a 'spy' camera is to enable you to put goggles on and fly from the cockpit in a virtual reality. Imagine ripping across the sky and feeling like you're in it!! What about a dustbin lid size? Looking like a spaceship? Looks like you guys are heading into the FPV arena ! It looks like awesome fun ! Done properly , these guys have VR style headsets on, receiving real time video from the onboard camera / transmitter on the heli. Some guys fly over a mile away from themselves while sat on a seat with their headsets on ! Crazy ! A proper "pilots eye view" though. Have a dig around on youtube, there are loads of great FPV vids there..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvViquuCeNUQuads are a pretty good platform for FPV because of their stability.
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