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Post by dalethorn on May 23, 2012 12:51:30 GMT
My new 1350 is like my first one sonically, but more comfortable. With a bit of EQ it becomes quite good. But it's still lean and highly detailed - somewhat like the Shure 940 but not as warm. I think a 940 with a brightness mod would be much higher in fidelity.
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Post by ealltech on Jun 25, 2012 7:28:47 GMT
That got me an improvement but not enough, so I cut the foams off of the 1840's spare earpads and added a second layer. So now each earcup of the 1440 has three thin foam layers. how do you think that the [moderated, spam is not allowed]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 9:38:09 GMT
Dale, have you tried the Shure SRH1840 at all?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 13:37:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 15:36:30 GMT
Thanks Frans.
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Post by dalethorn on Jun 27, 2012 0:53:31 GMT
I can't say I changed any view I had on the 1840, although if you were to be really in tune with the kind of bass presented by a ATH M50, you would be aghast at the 1840. Put differently, when I was working with the Shure 940, I thought the bass was nearly ideal, yet a significant weight of opinion (can't say exactly how big) said it was somewhat light in the bass. So taking that as a reference point, the 1840 has less bass than that. So if you've already donated the 600 quid to your local Shure dealer, lock yourself away for a month and convince yourself the 1840 is "just right". And then there are the mids and highs. I get along with those fine, especially the non-bright presence, but I will never completely understand the 1840's sound. It's unique, I think. BTW, the comfort may be the best in any full size headphone. Simply fabulous.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 5:20:05 GMT
They certainly look very comfortable. They are one of the makes of headphones I've never tried, except for their earbuds of old.
They come at one heluva price and so are up against Senn HD800 as well and I guess at those kinds of prices, most people would stay with the 'safe' option of a name like Sennheiser in the UK. Shure hasn't really made that much of an impact in the UK as far as headphones go.
Bit of a killer if you get your new headphone home and then don't like the sound of them.
I think I need a bit more bass than 'flat'. I start to crave a little bit more lower whack very soon if I don't hear it when listening to rock/pop stuff. Not so bad with orchestral although I do like to hear a strong timp/bass drum rumble.
You must have a 'museum' for headphones at your place!!! I saw your video of headphone comparisons and that pile on the desk was quite impressive!!
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Post by dalethorn on Jun 27, 2012 5:25:44 GMT
Several of the headphones have gone off to new owners. The DT-48A (gasp!) is traveling from the U.S. to Singapore this very night. I really don't want to pay $1000 USD for something like the Sennheiser HD700, but then again, that may be the thing to beat below the HD800 and the big orthos. I read every little snippet of info I can find on the 700, but to this day I don't have a real feel for the bass response compared to what I'm familiar with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 6:56:54 GMT
I guess you've kept a DT48 for yourself Dale? I know that you like them a lot.
I had a look on Amazon and they're going around £220 but what surprised me is they are the 'e' version and are such a low impedance for 'engineer' type headphones. 25 ohms!
The DT48 is becoming scarce as well, I think.
Do you think there's much between the SRH-1440 and the more expensive one, Dale? Roundabout £150 difference which approximately a K601 in the UK!! (One of my preferred headphones)
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Post by mrarroyo on Jun 27, 2012 9:56:28 GMT
Has any of you tried the Head Direct HE-300? I have and for the price it is very hard to beat and IMO sounds better than the Senn HD580/600/650.
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Post by funk1969 on Jun 27, 2012 10:01:48 GMT
Nope, but I find their product range interesting at least. If the funds are available I am considering something like the HE500...
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Post by dalethorn on Jun 27, 2012 11:12:46 GMT
I guess you've kept a DT48 for yourself Dale? I know that you like them a lot. Do you think there's much between the SRH-1440 and the more expensive one, Dale? Roundabout £150 difference which approximately a K601 in the UK!! (One of my preferred headphones) I didn't keep a DT48. Basically they need the oval pads, but today's oval pad design harms the sound. A new design is needed but will very unlikely ever be produced. The Shure 1440 can be made to sound almost exactly like the 1840 using the "brightness mod". But it may even be better after the mod - smoother at the very least. It's quite an amazing thing to hear, but like the DT48A, few will ever hear that sound because very few will ever do that mod.
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Post by mrarroyo on Jun 28, 2012 1:24:42 GMT
Nope, but I find their product range interesting at least. If the funds are available I am considering something like the HE500... I own the HE500 and IMO it is a superb sounding amp that will allow you to re-listen to your music library in a new perspective.
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Post by funk1969 on Jun 28, 2012 1:37:55 GMT
The quest for the holy headphone ;-)... (Sometimes I bitterly enjoy this hobby. Good grief I had to skip a K1000 just to keep my finances in check, arghhh!)
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Post by dalethorn on Jun 28, 2012 1:44:06 GMT
Got the B&W P3 tonite - another Apple store "exclusive" as I recall. The sound, or should I say the EQ'd sound from the default severe treble rolloff, is much better than I thought it would be. If my impressions from the hour I spent listening in the car (parked car) hold up, it should make a good walkabout headphone. I have 3 headphones from the Apple store now with severely recessed treble. The P3, H/K CL, and Bose OE2. They make a M50 sound like a bright electrostatic by comparison. Actually there's no comparison.
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Post by funk1969 on Jun 28, 2012 1:47:32 GMT
I would only buy something like a PX200 II in the Apple Store given it still is one of the best sounding portable and foldable headphones you can find these days. I prefer it even over the HD25. The others no...
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Post by dalethorn on Jun 28, 2012 5:57:16 GMT
P3 is clearly better than P5. Better treble but still not bright, better mids (not hollow like P5), warmer lower mids but no hump there, and better bass. EQ is treble booster with P3 - none of the simple EQ's work with the P5. BTW I tested with the Audioengine D1 and 96 khz tracks - sounded very clean.
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Post by XTRProf on Aug 25, 2012 22:07:34 GMT
Oh, boy, I heard this and the 1840 too yesterday. Really, they sounded like the Senns 700 and 800 with slightly better highs. But again over 5 minutes and memory as long que again. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this over the Senns at a more reasonable price. The 1440 is more forward and big sounding than the 1840. So for rockers, the 1440 is a better HP for you.
Dale, you are right on there regarding these over the Senns! For a Senns sound, I like them.
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Post by dalethorn on Aug 26, 2012 10:13:10 GMT
Yeah, the Senn 600/650 have a veil of some kind. I don't know if Senn has considered updating those. The HD700 sure has gotten a mixed reception. One area where Shure made a big gain over Senn 600/650 is comfort. I haven't seen the 700, but it's hard to imagine it's more comfy than the 1840.
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