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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 22:09:57 GMT
Ian, I'm still umming and erring over which one. The V911 looks a good bet but I could go larger with outdoors in mind The last time the Falcon went outside, it, rather than I, got rather carried away! Those mods I mentioned BTW, were intended for outside flying in slight breezes for models like you and Mike have.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 22:45:45 GMT
The worst thing about coaxials is they just have no power against the wind.
Mind you, Chris, watch out with single blades- they lift and get higher in the wind before blowing away.
The safest is a heavy cp like the one Mike has. They hold much better.
My 120 sr which is a foot long with a single blade has enough power to fight into the wind but it also goes up like it's in a lift and even cutting the throttle doesn't stop it. If you cut power off it just drops so it's a bugger.
I turn the heli round so the wind is behind it and put some rear aileron on to slow it down. With the wind behind it, it will come down but the speed that it shoots off at is unbelievable. I follow it up with zig zags left and right and then it will come down, but you need a lot of room to do that.
Outdoor flying is totally different. Faster with longer distances but the dangers of air currents makes it dodgy.
Collective pitch gives better security but they are buggers to hold which is why I've worked really hard on the Blade MSRx. It really behaves like a cp and funnily enough, it's pretty good outside too because the blades spin faster.
I'm quite interested in the freedom of outdoor flying but today, I could see exactly why they need to be big. You'd lose orientation so easily with a small heli at distance. At least with the Sky Taxi, I could see the back and front easily so I knew which way it was going, but it doesn't fight the wind because of its design.
My next one will be cp. maybe the little Blade mcpx to start with. Then I'd love a 450 but I'll need to think about that because there's always that fear of crashing in your mind with something so big.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2012 15:42:06 GMT
More bodging! I let my son have a go Gave the pep talk, showed him the basics....... BOSH, full power and SMACK, OrangeHawk down (teenage zero patience attack) A small crack to the canopy, both buckles (couplers?) from the B blades to the fly bar broken and the balls on the b blade grip gone as well. I've popped an inquiry in for the relevant spares but I'm quietly not too hopeful. Anyhoosen, I experimented with using formed wire links to do the job of the buckles, I only had solder wire to hand BUT, it works, the little fella flies just the same The solder will obviously be too soft and will give way after time, so, I'll take it home tonight and do a better job with some wire, drilling some tiny holes where the balls were to give the same flexibility as the original set up. Meanwhile I've been eyeing up that V911 again along with a good source for spares, maybe baby! Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2012 16:13:53 GMT
Bloody hell, Chris. That's so resourceful!!!! What a good idea. You know in the end, you'll have a custom heli.
I think I'm so ocd that if it doesn't fly properly after my repairs I'd get a bit fed up with it!!
I've lost one of me balls on the MSRx and blow me .... the battery holder on the 120 SR. Worn out.
So I'm dong a few minor repairs too.
The 120 sr is beautiful to fly outdoors. Very stable (well, relatively) and goes like the wind.
It has made me think more about the availability of spares. That was one criticism of the Walkera helis on another site - spares are hard to find.
The 120 is a fun fly and quite challenging with spares all over the place. Trouble is, with all that repairability, it's expensive, but it does take a lot to beat the flyability of the MSRX and the 120 SR. They are very good helis.
Whenever I've strayed to other helis, they haven't felt right to me. Are there any heli hobby shops in Spain? I must admit, whenever I've been over there, it's been hard to find much shopping other than food.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 17:14:53 GMT
Thunderbirds are go! It took a fair bit of tweaking to get rid of induced vibrations (making sure the wire links are exactly the same weight and form etc.) but up she goes... Dum didda dum, didda dum dum, dum didda dum daaaaaa dum.... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 23:12:48 GMT
OMG! My finger fell on the buy button, honest ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 8:31:34 GMT
OMG! My finger fell on the buy button, honest ;D Good on ya Chris!! You know, for me, it's a real relaxation and nothing beats getting outside with a heli and having a fly. If the weather's bad, then I have my little buzzers indoors. As you become more familiar with them, you crash less and less and it becomes less of a worry so you move on to the next challenge. I'm now flying the MSRx pretty well and have taken it outdoors and it's one of the best ones I have outside; except that it's so damned small so you can't send it too far away. However, it's giving me good practise with the wind and I'm really enjoying that. I had to do a repair on it since I wore out one of the balls on the blade grips, but it was cheap (although fiddly) and she flies again. I think the added resistance outside from the wind meant that I had to drive it harder so that's what actually did it. I like the MSRx a lot and the wife bought another one for me for my birthday. (One for inside one for out - don't ask ...... female logic!!) Anyway, I mustn't crash that one!! I'm thinking of moving on but not sure where yet. MCPx - small CP Blade 120 - a bigger cp. (But I've heard rumours about problems) Blade 450 - expensive cp and very worrying if you drop it. I guess I'll do the 'safe' route and move to MCPx which will fly in and out pretty well. Anyway, for now, I really like the speed and mobility of the MSRx although I know that a lot of people find it a bit of a 'mad' heli to fly. On my DX6i - it behaves really well and I have it set now on 100% power, long arms for the balls and just a tiny amount of expo which 'softens the sticks up a little in the middle region so you can get a smoother response. Once you get into the transmitters - it becomes really absorbing. You start to analyse what's happening in the air and look for compensations on the transmitter. It's not just a question of get it in the air and down again without crashing and do a few acrobatics in the middle!!!! It becomes very absorbing and as you progress, the so called 'difficult' helicopters become more useful in that the reason they are more 'difficult' is that they actually fly a lot better than the stabilised ones. However, they don't compensate for your mistakes like the stabilised ones do so you just have to know what you're doing. I blame Mike. I was perfectly happy with my 6 Bladez last Summer and had been for a year!! Then he mentioned the MCX2 and that got me!!! Better flyer and better batteries, but soon needed more of a challenge. I look at it as serious relaxation. I can't think of work when I'm flying or I'd crash. My wife sees it as that as well!! So good for you - you've moved on up. Take it one tiny step at a time and it may save crashes and bangs!!! Start with a 'hop' off the ground and back. Then hover. Then forward. Then turns. Then try some moves!!! With every one of them, I've found small steps best and really 'learning' what they're doing pays off in the form of no repairs - except the MSRx which was due to gawd knows how many hours flying - but it's a lot!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 12:29:21 GMT
Yes, they are very abosrbing, there really isn't much chance of thinking of anything else.
Several times I've been flying and wifey or the kids call for something, if I respond the heli is in trouble!
Hopefully I've learnt plenty off the Falcon, which is thankfully quite slow unless banking, and picked up enough of the tips here to stand me reasonably well prep'd to take on the V911.
It's coming complete with a red cross bag of spares and two extra batteries to make a total of four. Should be good for least 20 mins!
The supplier doesn't offer a fast post service so I'll probably see it around the end of the month.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 20:39:47 GMT
I have an MCPx coming tomorrow. On to Collective Pitch now!! Now that's going to take some learning ...........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 13:11:02 GMT
My Falcon had suffered total breakdown after many, many flights, crashes and dodgy repairs.
Parts were ordered and a well deserved rebuild was performed yesterday.
Blades, buckles, grips, flybar, flybar mount, new & better battery, new motors (old ones were still OK but the drive cog on one had worn out).
Flies nicely once more and I get 2 extra minutes on the battery!
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