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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 9:01:41 GMT
;D Yes, It's seriously big, Ian. The problem is not just the size (and noise) but the backwash. It's quite hefty and so the furniture dos affect it and it starts to wander all over the place once near a chair or whatever. Put it up in the air and it stops all that nonsense. However, to keep it high in a house takes a lot of bottle. I have done it, but shoved all the furniture back in order to create an empty space. I was literally hanging on to it in the video and the backwash was playing havoc because it was so low to keep in camera shot. There aren't many coaxials around that are between a big 'un and the MCX2. That would be idea for a house. I think the old CX2 and now the CX3 would be ok, but the CX3 looks a bit naff in my opinion.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 15, 2011 10:18:06 GMT
Yet another windy day There is certainly a lot to be said for the small coaxials, they are living room friendly and don't smash into pieces if you crash them into a wall.... not quite sure where the skywolf fits in, it's certainly more of an "outside" type thing, it's not much fun hovering the bugger 2 feet off the ground in an enclosed space... it would be nice to let her rip outside but, here we go again, that can only be done on a dead calm day and you can count the number of those per year on one hand
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 10:32:37 GMT
There's a good case for a medium sized coaxial imo. Something just a bit more substantial than the MCX2.
I think the old Blade CX2 was smaller and more room friendly.
The Ansmanns are a bit like having one of those single rotor things in the front room, except it's more stable. Outside, they're great, but the weather is calmer down here.
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Post by toad on Nov 15, 2011 11:28:19 GMT
Yet another windy day There is certainly a lot to be said for the small coaxials, they are living room friendly and don't smash into pieces if you crash them into a wall.... not quite sure where the skywolf fits in, it's certainly more of an "outside" type thing, it's not much fun hovering the bugger 2 feet off the ground in an enclosed space... it would be nice to let her rip outside but, here we go again, that can only be done on a dead calm day and you can count the number of those per year on one hand It'll all be worth it the first time you get it up outside. Get a mini cam Mike. With the scenery around your place it'll look awesome. That's one of the main reasons I want a bigger helicopter so I can do some videoing with my little md80 cam.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 15:09:51 GMT
Yet another windy day There is certainly a lot to be said for the small coaxials, they are living room friendly and don't smash into pieces if you crash them into a wall.... not quite sure where the skywolf fits in, it's certainly more of an "outside" type thing, it's not much fun hovering the bugger 2 feet off the ground in an enclosed space... it would be nice to let her rip outside but, here we go again, that can only be done on a dead calm day and you can count the number of those per year on one hand It'll all be worth it the first time you get it up outside. Get a mini cam Mike. With the scenery around your place it'll look awesome. That's one of the main reasons I want a bigger helicopter so I can do some videoing with my little md80 cam. A live feed would be better! www.raidentech.com/rchemispycam.html
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 20:10:48 GMT
Well, these beasties would hold a camera easily. They just need a calm day.
Mike, the trim is quite odd in that it can vary so much. If you adjust it say, too far left, it takes a little while before the heli actually goes left, but if you go left and right while the blades are turning, the place where the trim settles can vary.
Also, I think it pays to connect while it's on the floor, flat.
I meant to ask ... do you find the battery door a pain to open once you get the battery in there? I shove a mini screwdriver down past the catch to open it fully before pulling the door open.
There is certainly a lot to be said for the small coaxials, they are living room friendly and don't smash into pieces if you crash them into a wall.... not quite sure where the skywolf fits in, it's certainly more of an "outside" type thing,
If you have a small front room, I think they're positively dangerous and really don't think they should advertise them as indoor helis!! Actually, Mike, I feel happier with it outside and it goes up a lot easier once you have the luxury of space.
The only thing is coaxials and breezes don't go easily. Even fixed blades are difficult. My 120 SR flies off in a tiny breeze so I think the only safe bet outside is really a collective pitch in the end.
I wondered where it fits in as well. It is enormous for indoors but once you get over the size and noise indoors, it's actually very stable, but I treat it with a healthy respect. It has the potential to do serious damage at close range.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 15, 2011 23:20:27 GMT
My days of "getting it up" are long gone and certainly not "outdoors", it's way to cold for that type of activity anyways Ian, yes, the battery hatch is a PITA.... I've only opened it once but it was a bit tricky, will have a close look at it next time I load the battery... it's probably not a standard type latch and requires the "knack" Outdoor flying cams? erm.... yes, it could be done but could also go horribly wrong.... what if a bird of prey swoops down and steals my helicopter AND cam? Yeh, lovely scenery Chris but very windy scenery.... I would end up filming the Orkneys with the gusts up here
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 23:29:35 GMT
Mike If you really believe that, then either you aren't completely over that virus, or fully recovered from the other treatment. You should be positively dangerous to women of all ages again soon ! Alex
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 8:20:51 GMT
Mike You should be positively dangerous to women of all ages again soon ! Especially difficult when you see the size of the Sky Taxi in real life.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 12:21:53 GMT
Just taken a couple of vids... it's a breeze to fly when you let her rip will upload later
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 13:04:57 GMT
Outside Mike? I found it a lot easier with space and then go for it.... hovers really well then and is a lot of fun.
Indoors, I'm nervous of bringing the house down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 17:35:27 GMT
I must admit, since seeing that, I have a had a bit of a chuckle!! Funnily enough, my wife doesn't mind. She recons it blows the dust out. (She seen me up to worse things I suppose!!!)
One quality heli that you'd love Ian, is the Blade CX3. It's 16 inches long so not too big and is really easy to fly. Looks impressive and will make your USB ones look like nothing in comparison.
It's a coaxial, done up to look like a police helicopter (which is a bit unfortunate!!) but it flies like a dream and can go outside when it's really calm. Looks good up in the sky and is very stable. Not such a threat as the Sky Taxi.
Although my video looks a bit scary, it's easily controlled and I was literally holding it in a position that is always difficult, where a lot of helis would really shoot away. I'm extremely aware of the dangers of the blades so keep a healthy respect for them so I flew it very gingerly. Once you give it stick, it's amazing.
However, the CX3 is fine indoors and is just about at the limit of what I'd say is safe. Blades are also very good fliers in any case.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 18:27:10 GMT
What is it with that youtube crap? The damned vids are so dark since they were uploaded Anyhoo... my second flight in the workshop... getting a bit bolder
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 19:57:56 GMT
I've just taken a couple of crystal clear vids but they'll probably take all night to upload A couple of iffy landings but will give you an idea of this walrus in flight
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 20:54:06 GMT
That's a great description of it, Mike!! It's a fun thing to fly isn't it. I really like the Taxi. Big hefty heli that feels so solid indoors and a bit scary but less solid outside. It becomes quite quick on its feet if a puff of wind takes it.
I have 3 Buzzflyer batteries, so I've got enough to take it out and fly for half an hour. That's plenty enough stress!!!! I'm finding it easier outside than the 120 sr which is very lightweight by comparison. Actually, the 120 sr feels like a mini heli in comparison and has become much less scary to fly as a result.
Have you found the trim to be variable? Mine does seem to change.
Coming down can be a bit hectic. It's sheer weight means it can come down like a stone and you have to be careful it doesn't hit the ground.
I let it down reasonably slowly and give a mini rev at the bottom just before it touches the ground. That kind of gives it the opportunity for a soft landing!!
I reckon if you stopped the revs 30 foot up and tried to rescue it at the bottom end by giving it some wallop, it just wouldn't stop. I think it could really smack the ground.
I hoping for a really calm, flat day to have a serious fly outside but it''s been so variable and you also have to watch out for that blade slap problem.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 21:07:16 GMT
VERY! It starts out ok but the longer she flies I have found it starts "yawing" quite severely when you go into forward flight... it certainly is very variable in that regard. You will see a video (in about ten minutes) where it just veers off and hits the wall... I was giving her a bit of reverse and she yawed over, I think it could be down to either the battery OR a pretty sloppy control unit (transmitter). I've replaced the swashplate on the MCX today and it was a GREAT learning curve! I now know how to trim the helicopter "mechanically" so you don't have to bother with fine tuning the transmitter More on this in another thread.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 21:19:34 GMT
I've found that the Buzzflyer battery seems to make it hover better than the standard battery!! I have no idea why. Same size and fit but 25C instead of 15C. It takes off better as well.
I don't get how the battery makes that much difference.
On the mechanical trimming - I did that with the MSR. The only thing with blades is that the links only pop on one way, so you can't do half turns, it has to be full or else you end up breaking the plastic ball on the swashplate with the thumb pressure.
You did no damage when you went into the wall? Blimey. That was lucky. I haven't hit anything yet. Slapped the blades but not actually crashed. Mind you, I'm driving it like a granny.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 21:43:03 GMT
My new camera friendly fly zone I can only take vids at night as it likes the artificial lighting. Ian, you can see it going a bit mental toward the end! Best viewed at 1080P Full screen:
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 22:14:33 GMT
My bird seems to go a bit out of trim after she's been in the air for a few minutes.... that would suggest to me that the battery (the juice) was fluctuating.... it's fine for 5 minutes (or so) but then it starts going slightly pear shaped The Ansmann batteries are actually date coded.... my one is march 2009 which is 32 MONTHS old... a LiPo will start deteriorating from day ONE (whether it's being used or not) and a 32 month old battery is NOT going to perform as good as a day / week / month old battery. This is where this "LiPo" thing is flawed.... just because you've bought a new battery doesn't mean it will hold 100%... that "new" battery could have been sitting about for years I am going to contact the seller tomorrow and make him aware that the batteries are shite (they probably already know that hence the price reduction).... I will INSIST on a new battery (and I mean "new") as the helicopter is, essentially, not fit for purpose if the battery isn't performing as it should EVERY battery should be date coded.... I bet you that your BuzzFlyer battery doesn't have a date code on it does it? These people think we are all STUPID and will sell us old stock (bad batteries in this instance) with a supercilious grin on their greedy faces..... The sad thing is, most people don't realise the're being ass fekked by these profit mongers. The Ansmaan 'copters come with a 24 month warranty. The "battery" is 32 months old and not fit for purpose (sale or not, you have a contract with the seller) so a simple case of phoning the seller AND Ansmaan and let them both know how disgusted you are receiving such a wonderful "product" with knackered batteries. I bet you a pork pie I'll get a few "gesture of goodwill" batteries from them..... the more people who complain, the less people will get shafted in the long run Mike. By the way Ian.... I will never again be dealing with that BuzzFlyer outfit, they are bunch of all knowing, all seeing, all doing clowns (IMO).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 22:29:45 GMT
Mike, is the date code the number on the side of the Ansmann battery? Following the letters DC? In which case, mine is July 2009!! That'll explain why the Power Buzz batteries are better. I have 3 of them. They're also 1300 MaH and a slightly better fit in that horrible compartment. Not quite as tight. However, they're also 25C.
That company doesn't stock batteries for the Ansmann - I wonder whether it's worth contacting Ansmann direct?
I found that the standard battery seems to make the heli rise and fall in hover much more. In my vid, I was using the standard battery and it was reacting quite strongly to backwash. With the Buzzflyers, it seems to hold better!!
The Buzzflyers are better than the Ansmann by quite a bit - even giving better hover/control!! No date code on them though.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 22:34:18 GMT
YES!!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 22:35:04 GMT
"DC" equates to "DATE CODE"
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 22:38:42 GMT
YES! We all know the lifespan of a LiPo (whether used or not) so a 32 month old battery shipped with a NEW product is about as much use as snow ball in hell .... think about it
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 22:48:53 GMT
They are possibly "quite a bit" newer The Ansmaan battery, per se, is one SUPERBLY built battery (just feel the quality of the terminating leads).... it would have (possibly) kicked the Buzzflyer battery's "ass" back in 2009. I showed Sam the Ansmaan battery and he also commented on the quality of the leads / build. A high quality "dead" battery will never perform as good as a brand new "cheap shit" battery.... I think we need to go the full "flying walrus" and contact Ansmaan direct
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 16, 2011 22:53:43 GMT
Another one from the same charge.....
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