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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 24, 2011 23:17:53 GMT
I love the E-Flite helicopters, compared to the others I have they are so smooth in flight... the MCX2 is so easy to fly and reeks quality. Spotted the older MCX at a good price www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220870937409?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 and will be adding that to my e-flite fleet.... got the transmitter already so just a case of binding it to the transmitter. I think I am still preferring the co-axials for indoor use... the single blades are a bit hair raising and "fast".... I'll let you know how the MCX compares with the MCX2.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 7:41:00 GMT
Mike, the V2 is a problem indoors. The MSR isn't. I like that one so much, I have an MSR x on the way in December.
I don't get as much satisfaction from the v2 as I do the MSR.
The MSR is built better, flies better and is more controllable. The Sr 120 is more controllable and less wayward than the v2. IMO, the V2 gives an exaggerated taste of single blades and is much more erratic.
I noticed with Sam's video, it looked hard to hold and he was talking about trimming etc., but it's the heli, not him. It's probably popular because it's cheap - get a good 'un and it's fine but perhaps quality control isn't that good?
My first one was fine until the tail rotor packed in. the second one was nuts.
If that's your first taste of a single blade, I think you'd give up with it there unless you got a good one.
I agree the Eflites are good helis and they have progression built in for the learner. In the long run, they're cheaper because of less accidents. You also learn better flight habits imo than with these erratic helis.
If my 120 SR flew like that, I'd have someone's head off with the blades!!
Did you get the canopy sorted? If not, I'll send you my V2.
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 25, 2011 17:06:45 GMT
The MCX arrived this afternoon.... I "bound" it to the E-Flite transmitter and it was like flying an old friend! Same smooth response as the MCX2 but FASTER!!!
I am already preferring this to the MCX2... I took a video of its maiden flight and it responded PERFECTLY, went exactly where I wanted it to go and did a perfect landing, first time!
If anything the MCX2 "sounds" cheaper.... the MCX2 appears to be better built (maybe better motors?) and sounds so smooth in flight... the only pretty "nasty" part seems to be the canopy, it is paper thin but, hey, as long as you don't crash it head on into a brick wall, who cares?
I will upload a few pics and the maiden flight vid later (as soon as it has uploaded).... absolutely love this one and it's the best, so far, for controlled / responsive indoor flying.
Sometimes a "MK2" version doesn't necessarily mean "better"... the MK2 could be more mass production / utilise cheaper parts.... I certainly (after my maiden flight) think this a better helicopter than the MCX2.... no swashplate adjustments availabe, just FAST straight out of the box.... the vid will show you what I mean!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 25, 2011 18:24:28 GMT
MCX maiden flight:
Best viewed 720p full screen
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 19:03:34 GMT
Great landing, Mike!!
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 25, 2011 19:28:46 GMT
Thank you Ian. My very first flight with the MCX and it felt so natural.... a beautiful bird.... I'm gonna really practice with it until I can do some insane indoor flying... it is SO responsive!
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 25, 2011 20:59:49 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 29, 2011 23:30:56 GMT
The MCX is now my "reference point" coaxial..... MCX2 comes nowhere close when it comes to precision "one man in control" type flying.... I am SO in control of the MCX it's frightening... I will take a vid of some extreme MCX flying soon
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 30, 2011 19:17:31 GMT
A bit of faffing about flying through a tyre... I had the workshop door open so there was quite a breeze... not too easy to get it through the tyre
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 19:29:09 GMT
It'll be the circus next.
I guess the MCX must fly in a very similar way to the MCX2 with the tail boom that you have, Mike? (or is it smoother?)
It looks a really good flyer there in the video and doesn't seem as aware of the ground effect as the MCX2 is when it gets close.
Whenever I try to land on a box, the MCX2 just hops around it all of the time and you end up virtually 'chucking' it to get it to land!
It looks a bit faster as well.
Also, Mike, does the MCX2 canopy fit on the MCX. I'm thinking of converting one of my MCX2's to an MCX with a tail boom and new canopy!! (It might go quicker)
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 30, 2011 20:54:10 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 30, 2011 20:57:13 GMT
Modded MCX
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 21:08:43 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 30, 2011 21:48:48 GMT
Yes... it is also a lot flimsier... very very thin. I have a spare tail boom, I must get it in the post to you! Will send with the miracle wraps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 22:02:01 GMT
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 31, 2011 14:49:46 GMT
Ian,
Those paper canopies are great! I printed a few off on glossy photo paper and I also spray painted one with pink fluorescent paint (6 coats)... they look awesome and perform very well in flight, far better than the stock flimsy canopy.
Will upload a couple of vids of the "paper" canopies and will also publish some pics of the MCX paper canopies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 16:32:04 GMT
Great. I just came across them while browsing for MCX parts. I downloaded the pdf's so I have a little collection of them now.
I'll try them on the MCX2 perhaps!! I have some bits coming tomorrow so I'm going to do a conversion job. It looks like an MCX2 under the canopy with the tail boom so we'll see.
Presumably, it flies the same as the MCX2 with boom as well?
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 31, 2011 20:09:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 20:38:48 GMT
They need the window imo, Mike. The first one looks like a blind heli. You could have a special 'Little Pinkie' version!!
I've found some MSR paper designs that are glued at the bottom, so they're more enclosed than the MCX ones. I'm wondering about making those and working out where to put the mounting holes.
I quite like the shape of the MSR canopy and these ones are a little bit more pointy and look quite sleek.
It'll be printing onto plastic next, or spray painting!!
I'll send the PDF's to you Mike.
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Oct 31, 2011 22:01:40 GMT
They need the window imo, Mike. The first one looks like a blind heli. You could have a special 'Little Pinkie' version!! I've found some MSR paper designs that are glued at the bottom, so they're more enclosed than the MCX ones. I'm wondering about making those and working out where to put the mounting holes. I quite like the shape of the MSR canopy and these ones are a little bit more pointy and look quite sleek. It'll be printing onto plastic next, or spray painting!! I'll send the PDF's to you Mike. Ian I haven't finished it yet Ian... I'll paint on a window (by hand) and maybe "Pinkie" signature on the sides... I will then coat with acrylic lacquer.... One GOOD point with these is you can learn to fly the helicopter with the paper canopies and when you are 100% sure you are never going to crash... on with the stock canopy. The worst canopy I have come across (so far) is the MCX... if you smacked the nose into a wall it would crumple up, they really are flimsy with a capital "F". Fine if you don't intend head on impact but pretty shite if you do The Nine Eagles Pro V2 is a pretty fragile canopy too.... I hit mine on the wall and I could "hear" it cracking I think these companies consider the canopies as "consumables" which is pretty bad form (IMO).... the cheap MiniX and 9808 helicopters have BULLET PROOF canopies (you could whack them with a hammer) and there is no reason, at all, why the E-Flite helicopters can't come with these fitted.... it's all about extracting another fiver from your wallet and zilch to do with aerodynamics / weight. The photo paper canopies are, essentially, free and also quite tough so who gives a crap what they "look" like... I'd rather bash one of those (and print a new one out) than send "Buzzflyer" a fiver every time I crash You'd be as well flushing a fiver down the toilet. Learn to fly with photo paper and only fit the stock canopy when you're confident with your flying skills.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 22:15:23 GMT
Actually, I really didn't like the Honey Bee canopy. The seam started splitting from the start so I taped it up on the inside. Not good for a canopy that has to be taken off all of the time to change the battery.
I don't take too many chances so my canopies are lasting touch wood!!
If you bash the 120 sr, it would break for sure. The weight would make it implode on itself. That's the beauty of the miniature ones I guess. The do actually take quite a lot of abuse and as long as you cut the throttle, generally, you're ok.
I have a red V2 canopy if you want it Mike. Had a spare sent with my heli. (but not a red tail) Just thought I'd crash it so had spares sent with it - like skids. (broke them) Still have a red canopy though.
Because I've flown little helis for a while, I've kind of got used to keeping bits for crashes, although I've also learned not to crash if possible as well!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 11:57:11 GMT
Oh Yea of little faith.
Here you are hi fi man.....
Try this little indoor model.
From small acorns grows the mighty oak.
Ian
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Post by PinkFloyd on Nov 13, 2011 11:15:17 GMT
Bollocks! I was going to adjust the length of the rods and ended up snapping off part of the swashplate (ball joint) so have ordered a gold "fast response" replacement.... will report back on the effect this has to the MCX in flight, the write up looks good! " New upgraded aluminium swashplate with shortened arms suitable for eflite blade mCX making it more responsive with much better foward speed." Maybe this will be the beginning of a whole new hobby....... "RC Helicopter modding" I must admit, this plastic shite on these 'copters is pretty naff, just look at it the wrong way and it snaps. £4.99 for a replacement plastic swashplate or £10.99 for an alu one.... I think it's worth the extra £6?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 12:19:16 GMT
That is a pain, Mike. They are pretty weak. I used thin pliers behind the ball to take the pressure off when pushing the links on because of that problem.
Hopefully, the weight of the metal ones won't slow the take off too much. This mod has been done with msr's but there are reports that battery life went down.
The Walkera models look rather nice with those gold coloured swash plates and from what I've heard, they're supposed to be the gonads. Bit expensive though, but then again, maybe better built.
Look at it as a positive, Mike. Taking the blades and swashplate etc off will be a learning curve and maybe you will start to see how things can be improved as a result.
You'll need some clockmakers glasses so you can see. I have great problems seeing the tiny parts; especially as they're black and getting the tiny screws in can be a pain.
One thing I have never understood with Eflite is why they haven't offered different canopies. People would buy them galore just to have something different to look at. Say, a sky blue MCX2 and some nice custom ones. I'm sure there would be a market.
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