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Post by southpaw on Oct 1, 2006 22:30:25 GMT
has anyone tried these nice looking (imo) phones? Better still does anyone on here use them. The split on here seems to be largely sennheiser & grado - does anyone use anything else? Im currently a sennheiser man hd580 and just want something new.
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Post by FritzS on Oct 3, 2006 10:50:01 GMT
I heared some about the beyer, and had some questions about in head-fi.org too. The most experience - get a new 2006 model with 250 Ohm (if you dont want to hear over a mobile device). I have a senn HD600 and think about a Beyer - but I would prever the PRO series with 250 Ohm Pro series DT 770 PRO, DT 880 PRO, DT 990 PRO Consumer premiumline DT 770 Edition 2005, DT 880 Edition 2005, DT 990 Edition 2005 But call Beyer per email www.beyerdynamic.de/One answer from beyer - but sorry it's german: Der DT880 Edition 2005 wird auch dieses Jahr den Namen weitertragen, er ist letztes Jahr (wie auch die beiden anderen, grossen Hifi-Hoerer DT990 und DT770) grundlegend ueberarbeitet worden, daher ruehrt die Jahreszahl ;-) . Die Aussengeraeuschdaempfung des DT880 ist marginal, er nutzt dieselben offenen Ohrpolster wie der DT990, lediglich seine Aussenschalen haben ein geringeres Oeffnungsmass als die des 990er. Die 80- und 250 Ohm Systeme unterscheiden sich neben der Impedanz auch im Aufbau: die bewegte Masse bei den 80 Ohm Systemen ist hoeher, das Membranmaterial, die Anbringung und Laenge der Schwingspule sind unterschiedlich. Klanglich ausgewogener und hoeher aufloesend klingen die 250 Ohm Hoerer, dafuer spielen die niederohmigen beispielsweise an batteriebetriebenen Geraeten (mit niedrigerer Betriebsspannung, Intercom-Geraete, Ipods, etc.) lauter, was bei Ihrem Kopfhoererverstaerker aber sicher keine Rolle spielt. Der DT250 ist ein sehr neutral klingender, relativ kompakter Hoerer, der DT770Pro ist mechanisch etwas groesser und geht klanglich eher in die Hifi-Richtung mit einer leichten Absenkung der Hochmitten. Ein ebenfalls sehr neutraler, geschlossener Hoerer ist der DT48, durch die Metallkonstruktion von Buegel und Muscheln ist er allerdings schwerer.
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Post by jelosno on Oct 3, 2006 15:47:28 GMT
don't have much time so here's a very rough and very quick translation
The DT880 Edition 2005 will continue to carry it's name this year. It was revised (along with the other 'big' hifi cans DT990 and DT 770) last year hence the designation of the year 2005.
The ambient noise dampening?filtering (?) of the DT880 is very limited and the same ear pads are used as with the DT990. Only the outer bowls do have a reduced opening compared to the 990.
The 80 and 250 ohm systems differ not only in impendace but also in construction. The moved mass is higher with the 80 ohm systems, the membrane material, the attachement and length of the coil/driver are different.
The 250 ohm cans are soundwise more balanced with a higher resolution. On the other hand the lower ohm versions are louder with battery powerd devices (low voltage intercom devices, ipods etc.). This should not be an issue with your headphone amp.
The DT250 is a very neutral and relatively compact can. The DT770 Pro is meachincally larger and is designed more towards HiFi with slightly reduced mid highs.
Also a very neutral closed can is the DT48.The metall construction of the bracket/frame (the thing - above the head band - that holds the bowls together folks) and the bowls themselfes makes it rather heavy.
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Post by southpaw on Oct 3, 2006 21:46:33 GMT
thanks jelosno & Fritzs Im very tempted to get a pair as : 1) I live in a 1 headphone house and you can never have enough pairs 2) it'd be nice to have some new phones to go with my wna mk3 once i finish it. 3) nobody has said they're rubbish yet
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Post by FritzS on Oct 10, 2006 11:57:42 GMT
difference between DT880 Edition 2005 and DT880Pro, if you want the newest buy the DT880Pro
here the anwer from beyer in german Hallo Herr Stockhammer, der einzige Unterschied zwischen dem DT880 Edition 2005 und dem DT880Pro ist die Haerte des Buegels: waehrend der Hifi-Hoerer mit einem Druck von durchschnittlich 2,7N am Kopf anliegt, sind es bei der Pro-Version 3,5N, der Pro Hoerer sitzt also etwas strammer. Ausserdem sind die Gabeln, in denen die Ohrmuscheln aufgehaengt sind aus optischen Gruenden beim Hifi-Hoerer etwas breiter (das gefiel den Hifi-KollegInnen einfach besser...). Klanglich sind die Unterschiede marginal, durch den hoeheren Anpressdruck wird je nach Kopfgroesse der Bassbereich ganz leicht angehoben. 2006 oder 2007 Versionen wird es voraussichtlich nicht geben, der Hifi-Hoerer stammt ja aus dem Jahr 2005 und die Pro-Version hat erst vor wenigen Wochen das Licht der Welt erblickt. Viele Gruesse, beyerdynamic)))) GmbH & Co. KG
translate with altavista Babel Fish - is not exactly
Hello Mr. Stockhammer, the only difference between the DT880 edition 2005 and the DT880Pro is the hardness of the handle: while the Hifi listener with a pressure of on the average 2,7N rests against the head, there is with the pro version 3,5N, the pros listener sits thus somewhat more strammer. In addition the forks are, in those the caps hung up are somewhat broader for optical reasons with the Hifi listener (pleased the Hifi colleagues simply better...). Klanglich are marginal the differences, by the higher contact pressure depending upon head size the bass range are completely easily raised. 2006 or 2007 versions it presumably to give, the Hifi listener comes did not only see from the year 2005 and the pro version few weeks ago the light of the world. Many greetings, beyerdynamic)))) GmbH & CO. Kg
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Post by jelosno on Oct 10, 2006 14:07:37 GMT
ahemm,
Most probably there will be no 2006 or 2007 versions. The can (Hifi listener... ;D) is relatively new - launched 2005 - and the Pro Version saw the light of day for the first time only a couple of weeks ago
S.
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Post by petter on Oct 18, 2006 16:24:28 GMT
Hi southpaw.
I own both a pair of Senn HD 580 and a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 880 2005 edt.
There's no doubt in my opinion that the 880 is a much better sounding headphone. I think the differences between these two cans are obvious. The 880 has tons of clarity and crisp, and a wonderful detailed midrange. The sound stage is big, seamless, deep and smooth. It sounds slightly brighter, or not as neutral as the 580.
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Post by southpaw on Oct 18, 2006 20:02:52 GMT
Hi Petter, Nice to find someone else with exactly the same combination of headphones. Im still looking for a pair at the moment - I prefer the look of the 2003 edition. But im sold on a pair just as soon as I can find one.
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Post by upstateguy on Dec 5, 2006 1:06:39 GMT
another translation:
"The single difference between the DT880 Edition 2005 and the DT880Pro is the hardness of the bow: while the Hifi-listener with a pressure of on the average 2,7N adjoins at the head, are sits it in the per-version 3,5N, that per listener therefore somewhat more tightly. Moreover the forks are suspended are pleased, in which the ear shells for optical reasons at the Hifi-listener somewhat extended (that the Hifi-colleagues simply better. ..). Tonal the differences are is raised marginal, through the higher pressure, according to head size, the bass area very easily. 2006 or 2007 versions there not presumably will be, the Hifi-listener comes from the year 2005 and the per-version has first a few weeks ago the light of the world perceived. "
so I guess the difference is that the new model looks better (with extended ear shells) and fits tighter... and therein lies the sonic improvement.
USG
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