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Post by elysion on Sept 5, 2010 4:15:58 GMT
We have already a few posts regarding the Samson SR850 'phones in other treads. ClausDK was the only one who had both the SR850 and the HD681. IIRC he found the SR850 slightly superior and more neutral. Claus thinks the SR850 is proabably the neutral version of the HD681. Claus has mentioned that SR850/HD681 don't have the same drivers. I only possess a SR850 since an imported HD681 would cost me easily the amout I've paid for the SR850 (58CHF). The Samson brand is quite common here in Switzerland. No problem to get the SR850's. The main reason why I have started a separate thread (do we really need a SR850 thread?) is the experience I've made in the last few days. Long story short: I'm totally impressed with the performance of these 'phones and I think they need more attention. I had already fitted a leather headband from Claus (many thanks to Claus  ) long ago. Next step should be replacing the pads. I'm still waiting on the AKG K240 Mk II velours pads that I've ordered weeks ago. Tired of waiting any longer, I've ordered a pair of AKG pleather pads from a dealer that had just one pair in stock. I've paid 7CHF per pad (14CHF for a pair). Cheap IMO, but still a lot of money if you compare them to the stock vinyl pads: There's almost no visual difference and the look of the pads is the same. Are those AKG pleather pads worth their money? After a few days of testing the AKG pleather pads, I can clearly say that they sound much better than the stock pads. You see almost no difference if you place the pleather pads beside the vinyl pads. But if you touch the pads, the pleather feels much better and there's no annoying smell. I've liked my SR850's even with the stock pads, but they sound much better with the AKG pleather pads. Comfort is also good with the pleather pads (I've HATED the vinyl pads). A few PICS of my SR850 with leather headband from Claus and AKG pleather pads:       The leather headband makes the SR850's very comfortable (some of the most comfortable 'phones I have). I'll post pictures of the SR850 drivers soon. Maybe I'll try also the stocking mod (replacing the foam about the drivers with stockings). A re-cabling would be nice, but it's not my top priority since I've bought the SR850's as cheap headphones that are affordable for everyone (with headphone parties in mind). I don't hurry with a re-cabling as long as they already sound that good with the stock cables. How do they sound to me? Well, simply fantastic! In the last few days, my K501's got almost no attention because I prefered the SR850's. IMO the SR850 have the best bass of all my headphones (including HD25-1/II). While other 'phones still have sometimes advantages, the SR850's have convinced me mostly with their musicality. I still prefer my K702's, K501's and HD650's from time to time, but those SR850's are certainly 'phones that I could use everyday. Best of all: They are very comfortable and almost non-fatiguing. I have used the SR850 mostly with the PreSonus HP4 (great results), but they sound also great with my Neco amps (Portable+Mosfet). If someone else has the SR850's and/or the HD681's, please post your experiences. |
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Post by clausdk on Sept 5, 2010 7:53:20 GMT
My 850 has drivers from my old Philips HP1000 and are also fitted with some of Micks endcaps.. But I have no headband  Sold off my own and can not make a new one before I buy some new leather  But it does not matter that much, as I use my 660 with c-JAYS drivers the most.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 13:14:10 GMT
Dammit... you made me curious  Just ordered the SR850.  Expect it to arrive within 2 weeks (from UK). It's twice as expensive as HD681 so looking forward to see if it's worth twice the price.  Slap on some velours pads and see if it must/should be modded. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2010 20:45:48 GMT
Samson SR850 has arrived. First things first and slapped some AKG velour pads on it Don't like the stock pads a single bit !  Out of the box a 'familiar' sound ... hmm.. needs a few hours of 'cooking'... Right... a few hours later it sounds good (again a familiar thing)... let the comparison begin The first thing I am going to show is a picture of the driver. Those familiar with Superlux will immediatly have a deja vu.  No doubt in my mind the Samson SR850 is made by Superlux. Here's a picture of the 2 side by side.  So what's the verdict, are they different or not ? What's (exactly) the same: the drivers appear to be similar in looks. the plastic headband is similar with the difference of no name on the Samson and the Superlux's has it's name on it. the general construction is the same (AKG look alike) the cable and plug are exactly the same. the ear pads are the same. the dust filter is the same. What's different: the color scheme. the clamping force. the openings in the driver chamber on the rear. the shape of the headband holders. the shape of the rods (Superlux is bent outwards at a point and not running in parallel till it reaches the other side again, the Samson has 2 bends so the rods run parallel) the isolator material of the rods (thicker on HD681) the clamping force. the name plate (obviously) the box it came in. brand and type number. Now how about the most important thing ... the sound. Well they are definitely not the same.  There are no piercing highs and the mids are better. The bass is there but not as looowwww as HD681 the upper treble is not very present. So the drivers, though from the same manufacturer do not sound similar (as Claus already established  ). because the clamping force was a bit high I bent the rods a bit. Now the clamping is nicer but the bass extension isn't as deep anymore. having owned the HD668B from Superlux I can say (without the room for much doubt) that the drivers from the samson are sounding (almost ?) exactly like the HD668B when the clamping force is as low as the HD668B is. The 'almost ?' is due to the fact that I can't do a direct comparison but only from memory. I can still remember the same differences with the HD681 and HD668B as I am hearing now though. So I think the Samson SR850 is slightly different in appearance and has similar drivers like the HD668B but in 32 Ohm version instead of 56Ohm for the HD668B. This makes even more sense when you compare the price point of the Samson SR850 which is similar to the HD668B. I did sell my HD668B as I did not think it was as lively and engaging as the (modded) HD681 and sounded more like the K701 (which sounds accurate but aty the same time a bit dull and liveless to me) The Samson has the same sound signature as the HD668B which I found too be a bit lean on the bass compared to a HD681. Compared to the K701 the SR850 has more bass IMO. The SR850 doesn't need the HD681 filter mods and sounds quite pleasant right out of the box after a few hours already. With the higher clamping force you get more bass then the HD668B and only slightly less then HD681. Whether this is caused by the ear pads making a better seal or the drivers being closer to the ear I don't know. The mids from the Samson and HD668B are clearly better/fuller/warmer then HD681. This has been established before by Mike and Chaz too. The highs in the upper region of the filtered HD681 are way better and more sparkly then SR850 and HD668B which seem to be somewhat pinched off at this point. The highs are there but simply less sparkly as the modded HD681. More like the Sennheiser HD650 in level but less 'velevetty'. The deep lows of HD681 are slightly better, Samson is a bit more realistic though but because of this less 'fun' too. All in all the same conclusion (for me) as with the HD668B: SR850 and HD668B better for vocal and neutral listening without any fatigue.  The (modded) HD681 is more fun, lively-er, more dynamic.  I think I will keep the SR850 for a while and see if it goes out the door after some time like the K701 and HD668B (and many others) did. |
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Post by elysion on Sept 14, 2010 21:32:25 GMT
Great comparison, Frans. Thanks. The AKG pleather pads of my SR850's have probably also an influence on what I'm hearing. Since I don't have AKG velours pads around, I can't compare (at the moment). Do you think it's possible that the pleather pads make the SR850's a bit more bassy as with other pads? Isolation is not bad IMO, but never as good as with the HD25-1/II's. The HD25-1/II's have sometimes slightly too much bass for me. I like the bass of my SR850's very much. It's never too much bass and they remind me also of the HD650's. They are almost equally forgiving as the HD650's but not as laid back. The colours of the SR850 reminds me somewhat of some military gear I've used during military service. |
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Post by clausdk on Sept 14, 2010 23:06:36 GMT
Good reading Frans (as always), much inline with my own thoughts on them.. I use the red leather pads on mine and it lifts the bass a bit up, if you dampen them with a bit of filterwool the highs get a bit more lively.. I case you were bored one day ;D One thing I do not like about the samson is the rods, they ar microphonic as hell.. Mine are now modded with Philips HP1000 drivers, which are better drivers, but I do not get the massive bass of the HP1000 and also not as low, the reason for that must be that the philipsdrivers in the philipscup ha some kind of paper (think coffefilter) glued to the grills in front of the drivers which are not present in the Samsons.. I have tried different kind of foam in front of the drivers to mimic the paper, but it does not work Any Idea to what kind of paper that is ?? I have tried severel coffefilters and kitchenpaper etc. But it just won't work.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 18:12:16 GMT
I don't particularly like the greenish black and would have preferred it pure black but there is no choice in the matter alas. You'll only notice the green in daylight (or on the flash photo). In artificial lighting it's not very obvious and looks more like dark grey. Pleather usually refers to the very thin, paper/cloth like stuff and is actually a very thin layer of vinyl on top of cloth and tends to flake off after many years where thicker vinyl (Superlux pads) get's 'cracks' after a long time. I did try the Skytronics pads which alter the sonics a bit more then the AKG pads but feel much nicer/softer then the vinyl ones but not as comfy as the velours ones. I do not find there are huge sonic differences between the stock vinyl pads and the AKG velours ones (they are actually sort of plastic pads with a velours type stuff 'sprayed' on it). The major difference is in the wearing comfort which makes a huge step forward, but still not nearly as comfortable as the HD650 or beyerdynamics which have real cloth velours pads. The pads have the same thickness (driver-ear distance) and almost the same amount of air trapped inside and also about the same compliance (the way it compresses under pressure) which probably contributes to the sound only changing a little. The leather pads I bought off ebay were bad quality and sounded like crap, bass was all gone due to 'leakage' (returned them and got a refund) but I didn't put them on your 'cone' nor made them softer. They were much flatter then the original ones too. The rods of the Samson and Superlux are very microphonic as are the cables and their entry. They are cheap cans so there has to be a drawback.. It annoys me too but like the SQ of the cans so much it doesn't bother me that much. I don't know how the AKG K240 perform at that particular point (the rods being microphonic) but will try it when I audition them again. I prefer not to use wool in the SR850 as the bass would become less (and therefor the highs get more prominent) and don't think the top-end will become better as I believe the roll-off in the highs is caused by the stiffness of the diaphragm or due to break-up or standing waves perhaps, in any case a limitation of the driver itself. I did use wool in the modded HD681 as the 2nd edition filter has less highs and thus the bass became too prominent and had to damp that without changing the mids and highs. Wool effectively makes the cup behind it 'smaller' for low frequencies by altering the compliance of the air which affects low frequencies the most and thus the excursion (amplitude) of the driver at low frequencies gets restricted resulting in a lower bass level and as a bonus sounds 'tighter' too because the harmonics experience less damping and as a result sound more prominent in relation to the ground wave. This is why most (to me aenemic sounding) cans have 'tight bass' simply because the lowest frequencies are less in amplitude compared to it's harmonics which determine how 'fast' or 'tight' it sounds. I don't own the HP1000 but don't think putting (sonic transparent? paper) in front of a driver will provide more bass. Maybe it created a sort of 'resonance chamber' in front of the driver in the Philips housing then the distance would be of importance as well as the type. Putting anything like wool, paper or cloth in front of a driver only results in less highs as low frequencies aren't affected much by this and higher frequencies see a 'resistance'. Currently trying to figure out a filter to enhance the treble of the SR850 to make it more sparkly... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 20:23:09 GMT
Filter made for the SR850. Brings out the top end and is now a much nicer listen to my ears. Nicely between the HD681 and the Samson SR850 with respect to the highs. Will be posted as soon as I am satisfied and have listened to it for a longer period. It did cost a little bit off bass but the better treble is a bigger improvement then the slight loss of bass. You don't miss rolled off bass as much as rolled off highs. guess what I found written on the driver etched in the copper of the driver connection board ... 'Superlux' Boy what a surprise... The insides could not be told apart from the insides of the HD681. Also the paper filter and the internal wiring is the same. The sound of the drivers is different in signature. |
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Post by MaN227 on Sept 18, 2010 3:49:51 GMT
interesting reading. from all I've read, it appears that Samson has sourced parts from Superlux, cast their own rear difuser and bent the wires. I see on ebay for 40 usd the sr850. time to get busy selling off unwanted/un-needed stuff. as I'd LOVE to compare the 681 668B and the sr850. that and I want to make another donation to Rock Grotto, may it live forever. [its coming Mike, come hell or high water brother] I've been in quite a personal 'funk' for some time now and HAVE to change gears. Maybe saying it out like this will help me get going. As solderdude has touched on I indeed find the mids of the 668B superior to the 681's and for that reason would love to try a set of Mick's rings/caps on the 668B. because at stock I like it [668] better than 681 even the modded 681. my guess is with rings/caps it would seperate itself even further. @frans, still "working" the sale of some gear, please bear with me. I have a Beretta over/under shotgun that is brand new, never fired I'm trying to find a good home for , that'd allow me to get more gear plenty more gear 4 years ago it cost 1250 usd new. the great thing about it is, I won it on a "tip board" cost me all of 5 dollars Goes to prove that even a blind squirrel gets a nut sometime elysion I rather like your um... HEAD! . is that a Styrofoam wig sorta head? manikin head? or what? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2010 6:08:36 GMT
If you've got the HD668B it is rather senseless to buy a Samson.
They sound VERY similar.
The only difference being wearing comfort and impedance.
The clamping force of the Samson is higher as it is intended for 'studio use'.
As a result slightly more bass.
Just put on your HD668B and press on the earcups and you'll notice more bass.
I also got the impression the rods of the HD668B are marginally less microphonic, can't compare anymore.
Wht don't you mount the rings and end caps on the HD668B ?
Seems strange to buy a Samson if you plan to 'clean up' on the amount of gear.
It's like having 2 HD668B's.
You can only wear one of them.
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Post by elysion on Sept 18, 2010 12:10:40 GMT
elysion I rather like your um... HEAD! . is that a Styrofoam wig sorta head? manikin head? or what? I have two heads. One is white and the other has that dark black/brown coating. Both are made out of ceramics. I can't say much about their origin as I've bought both used from a Swiss online auction. What I do know about the heads: – They were made in Germany. I have no clue about the manufacturing date, but I guess it could be late 80's or early to mid 90's. Maybe they have been produced over a longer time, but you see them only very rarely in auctions (if any). – They were especially produced has headphone stands. They can also be used for decorative purposes. – I've seen a few them in homes of other people years ago (that's why I think they are quite old). I can spot very fine scratches in the coating of the white ceramic head. It's like the coating of flower vases. – There have been a lot of colour variants. I have only two of them. – I very much like the natural shape of the heads. That IMO what makes them superior to other heads. I got my two heads cheap, but they are often sold for much more money in auctions. IIRC I've paid around 20-30CHF for both heads (including shipping). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2010 16:07:05 GMT
Samson SR850 filter mod: Schematic:  filter mounted on the driver: (Notice the 'Superlux' brand on the driver PCB)  Disassembly instructions are here: www.rock-grotto.co.uk/HD681.pdfThe construction is exactly the same, the filter is different. Result after mounting the filter: Much more silky highs with NO top-end 'missing' anymore. The bass and midrange are unchanged. I would go as far as describing it 'lush' and 'laid back', where as the HD681 is more lively, dynamic and engaging/involving. The modded HD681 sounds like you have a subwoofer on your head and have 'front row' seats without being boomy or bass heavy. The Samson SR850 is more balanced and has a 'softer' reperesentation, more situated in the 'middle' of the theater, better suited for low level listening in the evening. Soudwise they are NOT similar at all. My personal preference lies clearly with the Modded HD681. For others this may well be the other way around. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 9:58:53 GMT
This is the SR850 in it's current condition:  Filter modded (different filter the HD681). AKG velours pads. skytronics cable (very thin litze wire but low in microphonics). Mick's MkIII end caps (painted black). Bass is slowly getting better. These drivers have a longer 'break-in' period then the HD681's. |
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Post by elysion on Oct 3, 2010 15:10:46 GMT
Bass is slowly getting better. These drivers have a longer 'break-in' period then the HD681's. My SR850's have had a lot of burn-in. Perhaps this explains (partially?) why I found the bass to be absolutely spot-on. It's still not a bass monster though. The "missing" top-end you have described earlier is maybe the reason why I love the SR850 for long listening. I think, I'm a bit sensitive in the HF department. Of course, I'd need to compare both a stock and a filter modded SR850 (with similar burn-in time), but it's IMO not unlikely that I like that "missing" top-end. One of my first and most important requirements for a good headphone is that I can wear it for a very long time without any signs of ear fatigue. The SR850 needs 3rd-party pads to be really comfortable, but beside this the stock SR850 is already a rather good headphone. It reminds me somewhat of a HD650 (more laid-back character) and K501 (neutrality). HD650/K501 are really different from the SR850, but I see some similarities. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 16:33:54 GMT
No mine also is not a bass monster like the HD681 and HD250II.
This (the DEEP bass without being over the top, annoying or muddy sounding) is the main reason why I prefer the HD681 over the SR850 and hadn't I sold my HD250II in favor of the HD650 would have preferred the HD250II over the SR850 too.
I agree with the listening fatique bit of the SR850.. it has none of this.
When the filter is applied it still hasn't.
Really worth making, only the highs get better, more silky and extended without any trace of fatigue or other nasty things that could ruin the sound.
As an experiment you could build the filter externally without R1,L1,R2 and L2 when you use a low-ohmic output headphone amp.
Just put a 22 Ohms resistor in parallel to a 470nF (= 0.47uF) capacitor and mount this combo in series with the L and R lead of the HP cord.
The common, or ground lead remains as it was.
If you don't like it... don't use it.
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Post by elysion on Oct 3, 2010 17:23:24 GMT
I'm still an absolute soldering rookie, but the SR850 filter (and your crossfeed pcb) could be one of the first projects for me.
But don't expect anything regarding soldering to happen with me until somewhen in the next year. I simply don't have enough time to get deeper into it.
I will change the job soon and I have also to move before the end of the year.
I'm almost sure that I'll get a couple of additional SR850's (I think about 2-3), but most likely not until the end of the year (it will be more likely next spring).
SR850's are probably the cheapest 'phones that are suitable for me for really long listening sessions. I don't know the HD681 and maybe I have missed here something big time. If the bass of the HD681's is more like that of the HD25-1/II's then I could really say that I like the SR850's a bit more. Mike described the bass of the HD25-1/II's as rather similar to that of the HD250 Linear II's. I also like the HD25-1/II's (and their bass), but in direct comparison I would still choose the SR850's. I think it's all about ear fatigue. I feel most comfortable for listening if there is absolutely nothing that adds up to ear fatigue. The (supra-aural) pressure of the HD25-1/II's is a bit too much for really long listening. They have loosened up slightly over the months (being much more comfortable now), but it's still not that comfortable as with other 'phones.
The bass backwave from the closed-back design of the HD25-1/II's is great, but for me it's sometimes very slightly too much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 17:40:35 GMT
the HD681 is more like an SR850 with a subwoofer attached to it when it comes to the lows. You won't know what you missed unless you put the HD681 on after you heard the SR850 or knew there were deep lows (really deep, the rumbling type from the movie theatre) and realised they were there but could be louder. the highs of the HD681 (with filter) are far more sparkly and detailed compared to SR850. Over the top almost... I am pretty sure you personally would prefer the SR850 over the HD681. Also the mids of SR850 are better. I don't think the HD250II has similar bass to the HD25. I would say the HD250II is better in that department, cleaner more analytical where the HD25 sounds boomier/beefer to me. The HD25 is meant/designed for (portable) studio use and monitoring/playback during recordings outside the studio mostly, not for HiFi listening and has it's EQ designed for that purpose. That it sounds good for hifi listening too is a 'bonus' and is a personal preference too, not everyone likes them equally well. To me the HD25 sounds good for Rock e.t.c. but suited for all kinds of music like a 'universal' can. The HD250II is meant as a hifi stereo HP with another 'audiience' and target group. The HD250II, however, is more 'universal' (like the HD650, modded HD681, SR850, K701 and alikes) IMO |
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Post by elysion on Oct 5, 2010 18:15:18 GMT
Finally, I've got my long awaited AKG K240 MkII velours pads...   I'll try to compare the differences between the AKG velours and pleather pads as soon as I find enough time for it. |
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Post by elysion on Oct 11, 2010 21:02:36 GMT
This weekend, I had the opportunity to enjoy how good the SR850's sound even with an iPod Touch 32GB as source (with no additional amplification).
It's not a big suprise since the SR850's have 32 Ohm impedance. A Neco Portable V2 between iPod Touch and SR850 doesn't make a real difference.
My K702's are another department. I had a few very nice hours this Sunday, listening with the UCA222+NecoPortableV2+K702 combo. The K702's really need some amplification.
So far, I'd rate the AKG velours pads as the most comfortable pads and the SQ is improved a lot over the stock vinyl pads (no surprise, Frans and other have made this experience long before me).
The suprise are probably the AKG pleather pads: I've bought a pair because my order for velours pads was blocked somewhere for longer time. I think the velours pads are better, but the pleather pads are also a major improvement over the vinyl pads. The pleather pads are cheaper and better for cleaning.
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Post by elysion on Nov 14, 2010 4:57:38 GMT
Has anybody else noticed that the SR850's have dropped in price? I don't know if that's only because of the Euro weakness (and strong Swiss Francs). The price drop was quite substantially: from 56CHF to 39CHF.
My experiences with the SR850 and AKG velours pads have been very good. The SR850 does very well with electronic sound. Goa/PsyTrance sounds very good with it.
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Post by UzminiNu on Nov 14, 2010 11:21:34 GMT
The price in the UK tend to be a little bit higher the past weeks.Now they cost 27-37£ inc. delivery.
got 2 pack SR850 for 40£ inc. delivery.awaiting order...
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Post by UzminiNu on Nov 19, 2010 22:18:15 GMT
The Samson SR850 are better than Superlux HD681 only whitout filter mod.The sound is clean no sibilance,nice bass.
What i really dislike is the high clamping force.Especially with the sweaty stock earpads.
Prefer over everything the HD681 modded.Nothing so far make so much fun listening.
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Post by elysion on Nov 20, 2010 12:00:20 GMT
The Samson SR850 are better than Superlux HD681 only whitout filter mod.The sound is clean no sibilance,nice bass. What i really dislike is the high clamping force.Especially with the sweaty stock earpads. Prefer over everything the HD681 modded.Nothing so far make so much fun listening. I'm glad you like the SR850's... You should get other pads for them first (I didn't like them much as long as I had no AKG replacement pads). I prefer the AKG velours pads, but the AKG pleather pads are also a lot better than the stock vinyl pads. The clamping force is rather high, but I don't have problems with that. I'd suggest you to use a headphone stand (like the ceramic heads I'm using) or a couple of books and put the SR850 on it for a couple of days. The clamping force should be reduced after some time. SR850's are also great mobile 'phones since they sound great directly plugged into an iPod (without extra amplification). I prefer the HD25-1/II's for really heavy duty use outdoors, but I prefer the SR850's in the SQ department and because they are less fatiguing to wear. The supra-aural nature of the HD25-1/II's isn't exactly perfect for very long listening sessions. |
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Post by Chris53 on Nov 20, 2010 19:48:42 GMT
My SR850's arrived today, in fact two pairs arrived in the same box. First impressions are very favourable. They don't sound like cheap headphones at all. For me at the moment the top end doesn't sound as though much is missing but maybe that's because I'm 57 The bass end sounds a bit "flabby" though but I would imagine that will improve with a bit of burn in. Quite a bargain. |
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Post by UzminiNu on Nov 20, 2010 23:04:42 GMT
The Samson SR850 are better than Superlux HD681 only whitout filter mod.The sound is clean no sibilance,nice bass. What i really dislike is the high clamping force.Especially with the sweaty stock earpads. Prefer over everything the HD681 modded.Nothing so far make so much fun listening. I'm glad you like the SR850's... You should get other pads for them first (I didn't like them much as long as I had no AKG replacement pads). I prefer the AKG velours pads, but the AKG pleather pads are also a lot better than the stock vinyl pads. The clamping force is rather high, but I don't have problems with that. I'd suggest you to use a headphone stand (like the ceramic heads I'm using) or a couple of books and put the SR850 on it for a couple of days. The clamping force should be reduced after some time. SR850's are also great mobile 'phones since they sound great directly plugged into an iPod (without extra amplification). I prefer the HD25-1/II's for really heavy duty use outdoors, but I prefer the SR850's in the SQ department and because they are less fatiguing to wear. The supra-aural nature of the HD25-1/II's isn't exactly perfect for very long listening sessions. Hi Christian, i forgot to mention it i had the SR850 only for 5 hours listening and each hour they get better:D. Yes, i got a glass head :]. the same greenish color as my glass desk Actually i was searching couple of months for a stylish ceramic head like yours on ebay.. It was a cumbersome "unterfangen", it was really hard to find a good looking one.And the Post Office forgot to deliver it and they sent the glass head back to the seller.I waited more than a month.And paid 2 times more to get it... I really dont like small closed headphones with strong clamping force, its simple, my ears are burning hot - its too painful.And i really like to hear the outer world.Its for my safety. And for the velour pads.They never leave my HD681 filter mod v2.And It looks really bad in my headphone ca$h department now.I have to set priorities.I bought 4 headphones this month and gave away my frends 3 of my boxed/unused headphones. At first i have to go to my Morocco trip next week.So a lot of velours only for next month:D. |
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) long ago. Next step should be replacing the pads. I'm still waiting on the AKG K240 Mk II velours pads that I've ordered weeks ago. Tired of waiting any longer, I've ordered a pair of AKG pleather pads from a dealer that had just one pair in stock. I've paid 7CHF per pad (14CHF for a pair). Cheap IMO, but still a lot of money if you compare them to the stock vinyl pads: There's almost no visual difference and the look of the pads is the same. Are those AKG pleather pads worth their money?
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I think I will keep the SR850 for a while and see if it goes out the door after some time like the K701 and HD668B (and many others) did.
