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Post by jonclancy on Jul 21, 2010 15:02:02 GMT
Hi All, This is the official build and support thread for the JLH Ripple Eater GB. Manual Here: www.rock-grotto.co.uk/rock-grotto-ripple-eater.pdfMost, if not all, questions will be answered by reading the FULL manual. Experienced builders will find enough info in the Mini manual. Don't forget, this GB will donate all profits to Cancer Research UK. Have fun!! Jon
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Post by puffin on Jul 21, 2010 19:31:18 GMT
I can't get the link above to work. How much is it for 10 boards and what is the PayPal address?
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Post by jonclancy on Jul 21, 2010 19:54:22 GMT
Hi,
GB long closed
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Post by jonclancy on Jul 21, 2010 21:33:37 GMT
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Post by XTRProf on Jul 22, 2010 1:56:43 GMT
Jon, You've got pm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2010 2:52:10 GMT
I now have 2 of Jon's and Will's JLH PCBs sitting in front of me, and they look very nice indeed. They look very classy with the gold soldering pads. I will build 2 +VE versions up over coming days with the capacitors laying down this time, as I would like to try stacking them. I know that I will only be confirming the results from both Will and Jon where everything went together without any drama, and worked first go. Jon, do you want me to put them together using the Current Limiter? I intend trying them in the SC DAC with the CL bypassed. Alex
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Post by jonclancy on Jul 22, 2010 7:34:42 GMT
I have the PM, thanks Chong, and Alex - DOH - I see your boards have arrived. Alex, don't worry about the CL, but please do feedback your build experience and test results. I'm off for another packing session before going town to the PO for the first time today. I'll be doing 2, maybe 3 runs per day. Cheers Jon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2010 6:05:25 GMT
ROCK GROTTO JLH Build 24-07-2010I finished the 2 PCBs in the photo this morning. The only minor niggle I had was aligning the 2 pin terminal blocks for soldering, as the holes were a little too large. The voltages on the only PCB that I have tested so far, were pretty much in agreement with Jon's readings. I used my dual regulated bench supply at +15V for initial testing, as it has an overload feature. I was very happy to see the digital meter on the bench PSU register an initial momentary drop in voltage as the PCB was switched on. For me, this is always a good omen. As both PCBs were constructed a stage at a time, I expect the other PCB to have no problems either. I configured both PCBs without the Current Limiter , and as +VE rail versions. Although I used 2 x 4,700uF Low ESR capacitors in parallel, none of the transistors became more than a few degrees warmer than the ambient temperature . Alex
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Post by Will on Jul 24, 2010 8:07:04 GMT
Thanks for the feedback, Alex.
I had the same minor niggle with with my terminal pins being to small as well. I'm currently investigating how to change standard drill sizes for these pre-made eagle models, so I don't have similar problems in the future.
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Post by jonclancy on Jul 25, 2010 18:25:27 GMT
I used a small strip of insulating tape to position the terminals. It worked fine. If we can customise our EAGLE terminal models to suit, then that will be very helpful for future projects.
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Post by Will on Jul 29, 2010 17:08:03 GMT
They stack nice with 20mm spacers. Height is 44mm for two boards, 65mm for three, plus bottom spacer height, which attached to your case. Bought the spacers from myworld.ebay.co.uk/audiowind-2005/, very cheap at £5.85 delivered for 50, along with some very good price toshiba 5171/1930 (Thanks to Syd and Chris for that one)
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Post by Dickybottle on Jul 29, 2010 18:05:01 GMT
They stack nice with 20mm spacers. Height is 44mm for two boards, 65mm for three, plus bottom spacer height, which attached to your case. Bought the spacers from myworld.ebay.co.uk/audiowind-2005/, very cheap at £5.85 delivered for 50, along with some very good price toshiba 5171/1930 (Thanks to Syd and Chris for that one) Thanks for sharing that pic Will, it's just what I wanted to see. The measurements are very useful too, particularly in my case where case height is very tight. Do you think there is any way I could get away with 17mm spacers though - maybe by leaning the TO220's a bit? If so it would be perfect - I could then use 5mm spacers on the bottom and still have a couple of mm's to spare below the ceiling. Ken
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Post by Will on Jul 29, 2010 19:02:12 GMT
Hi Ken,
I reckon you might just scrape it with 17mm spacers. There is 1mm clearance from the top of the toshibas to the bottom of the pcb. I bent a toshiba over and it gives just over 2mm, without going to far, but still with some space to to gain if needed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 21:23:48 GMT
Ken, You can also lay them on their side and bolt them to a side panel or "L" bracket mounted to chassis base. That's if you have more "floor space" than height. It also means that the caps, instead of laying down on the job, will hanging like fruit bats inside the dark box
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Post by Dickybottle on Jul 30, 2010 10:09:35 GMT
I've just taken a quick snap showing the "problem" I have fitting the JLH. I hope it makes it clear. Please ignore all the casual wiring - That's just to get the amp working until the pot and JLH's arrive. The attenuator should come to the first pencil line on the right, leaving about 100mm or so up to the regulator. There is plenty of width from the side wall to the amp board to form the wires, but as you can see, height is not in abundance. The boards may go on their sides, but fixing them to the case side wall will mean either screws through the side or some kind of mounting bracket fixed to the base. Hmmm, I'll have to think about that bracket idea... Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers - Ken
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jul 30, 2010 19:00:24 GMT
Ditch the case and buy a bigger one?
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Post by Dickybottle on Jul 30, 2010 19:10:39 GMT
Ditch the case and buy a bigger one? That's a great suggestion Mike, I hadn't considered that - I can't believe I overlooked it. Ken
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Post by PinkFloyd on Jul 30, 2010 22:06:32 GMT
Ditch the case and buy a bigger one? That's a great suggestion Mike, I hadn't considered that - I can't believe I overlooked it. Ken It may be the only logical solution to your dilemma....
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Post by Dickybottle on Jul 31, 2010 8:18:09 GMT
That's a great suggestion Mike, I hadn't considered that - I can't believe I overlooked it. Ken It may be the only logical solution to your dilemma.... Well, in theory it should just fit - And if it does should look good with almost all of the case used to the max. I know there are cases available which would do the job, but they are either too expensive or just look crap. I quite enjoy doing casework, and this is proving quite a challenge. I'll keep you posted on how it pans out when I have all the bits. Ken
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Post by FritzS on Aug 4, 2010 12:26:23 GMT
They stack nice with 20mm spacers. Height is 44mm for two boards, 65mm for three, plus bottom spacer height, which attached to your case. Bought the spacers from myworld.ebay.co.uk/audiowind-2005/, very cheap at £5.85 delivered for 50, along with some very good price toshiba 5171/1930 (Thanks to Syd and Chris for that one) Very nice and professional - but for what you use three JLH Ripple Eater?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2010 12:38:24 GMT
They stack nice with 20mm spacers. Height is 44mm for two boards, 65mm for three, plus bottom spacer height, which attached to your case. Bought the spacers from myworld.ebay.co.uk/audiowind-2005/, very cheap at £5.85 delivered for 50, along with some very good price toshiba 5171/1930 (Thanks to Syd and Chris for that one) Very nice and professional - but for what you use three JLH Ripple Eater? Friedrich In a DAC for example, you could have a couple for +-15V for the analogue area, and +5V for the digital area. If you look closely at the photo, you will see that the bottom JLH is a different polarity version to the top 2 . Alex
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Post by puffin on Aug 4, 2010 18:39:12 GMT
They stack nice with 20mm spacers. Height is 44mm for two boards, 65mm for three, plus bottom spacer height, which attached to your case. Bought the spacers from myworld.ebay.co.uk/audiowind-2005/, very cheap at £5.85 delivered for 50, along with some very good price toshiba 5171/1930 (Thanks to Syd and Chris for that one) The board on the top of the 3 has no resistors. Is there a reason?
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Post by Will on Aug 4, 2010 19:32:42 GMT
Hi Puffin,
Just a case of not putting them in yet really. Dickybottle, in the SCHA thread and this one was pondering if he could get a stack of two in his case. I posted this to show how it looks and also give dimensions if it helps anyone, much as I posted it at diyA. Have you built yours up yet?
Friedrich,
as Alex says, this is for my SC Dac, with the bottom two being +/- 15V and the top for 5V. He's bloody observant on the marking!
Will
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Post by puffin on Aug 4, 2010 20:07:47 GMT
Will. Where did you get the deal on the toshiba 5171/1930? How much each were they?
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Post by Will on Aug 4, 2010 20:32:14 GMT
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